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<blockquote data-quote="OPTIC_NUT" data-source="post: 3672233" data-attributes="member: 121951"><p>Fun diversion, the super-junkers.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, looking at the OP, and considering field trips to well-stocked sporting stores,</p><p> and lumping 8x30 and 8x32:</p><p></p><p>--At first glance, something like the Barska Crossover 8x30 WP (~$60) seems</p><p> to offer the right things, the coatings, the field, the glass...</p><p> And even when you look through them, the view is excellent.</p><p> However, peeking under the IPD cover on the hinge, the assembly will go 'flappy' in a few years.</p><p> Mahybe just a few weeks....they simply jam the focuser arms down with a screw that skids.</p><p> There are parts missing. Already, the diopter adjustment won't hold for 5 cycles.</p><p></p><p>---Moving up just a little, the Bushnell 8x32 Trophy (~$70) had a much more durable contruction.</p><p> Although it was roof (harder to see the works), cycling focuser 30 times still kept the L-R diopter setting</p><p> ( problem years ago). Buying at a store is key; buying the one you inspected.</p><p> The 'push-discs' in the focuser can slip sometimes, and you don't want to fudge around inside.</p><p></p><p>---Then we hit the Leupold Yosemite 8x30 and the cousin Kowa YF 8x30 ... ~90</p><p> Yes, they are Porro, but quite compact. Really great view. </p><p> This is like the Barka Crossover, but with radically better mechanics. Well worth it.</p><p></p><p>----Things get a little better at $110 ... the Vangard Oros and a few excellent Opticrons...</p><p> </p><p>The big jump in quality and durability seems to happen at $70-80.</p><p>Around $100 is really good.</p><p></p><p>I got some Bushnells on clearance and some Barska Crossovers for $40,</p><p> but they both required a mechanical overhaul/upgrades to be good.</p><p>At the low end, they have QC 'soft patches' from China sometimes.</p><p></p><p>For many decades, it seems the mechanical details are the most critical</p><p>things to come along with price. A tilted eyepiece, even a little, smudges the field edges.</p><p>Misalignment....headaches and uncomfortable viewing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OPTIC_NUT, post: 3672233, member: 121951"] Fun diversion, the super-junkers. Anyway, looking at the OP, and considering field trips to well-stocked sporting stores, and lumping 8x30 and 8x32: --At first glance, something like the Barska Crossover 8x30 WP (~$60) seems to offer the right things, the coatings, the field, the glass... And even when you look through them, the view is excellent. However, peeking under the IPD cover on the hinge, the assembly will go 'flappy' in a few years. Mahybe just a few weeks....they simply jam the focuser arms down with a screw that skids. There are parts missing. Already, the diopter adjustment won't hold for 5 cycles. ---Moving up just a little, the Bushnell 8x32 Trophy (~$70) had a much more durable contruction. Although it was roof (harder to see the works), cycling focuser 30 times still kept the L-R diopter setting ( problem years ago). Buying at a store is key; buying the one you inspected. The 'push-discs' in the focuser can slip sometimes, and you don't want to fudge around inside. ---Then we hit the Leupold Yosemite 8x30 and the cousin Kowa YF 8x30 ... ~90 Yes, they are Porro, but quite compact. Really great view. This is like the Barka Crossover, but with radically better mechanics. Well worth it. ----Things get a little better at $110 ... the Vangard Oros and a few excellent Opticrons... The big jump in quality and durability seems to happen at $70-80. Around $100 is really good. I got some Bushnells on clearance and some Barska Crossovers for $40, but they both required a mechanical overhaul/upgrades to be good. At the low end, they have QC 'soft patches' from China sometimes. For many decades, it seems the mechanical details are the most critical things to come along with price. A tilted eyepiece, even a little, smudges the field edges. Misalignment....headaches and uncomfortable viewing. [/QUOTE]
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