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Despairing of the feral parakeet situation
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<blockquote data-quote="John o'Sullivan" data-source="post: 1435681" data-attributes="member: 6170"><p>Reply to earlier comments. The main ones being that </p><p></p><p>Extinction is a KEY part of evolution. In the past extinctions have been brought about by other natural processes such as asteroid strikes, natural climate cycles, inter species competition now we are driving extinctions. Annihilation is part of the process. </p><p></p><p>Conservationists in Britain are annihilating Ruddy Ducks. There are those that want to annihilate Parakeets and Eagle owls. These actions are of course natural human influences, I don't like them as I think they are misguided and irrelevant, they would involve animals/birds etc being killed in numbers for what I see as stupid reasons.</p><p></p><p>Conservationists delude themselves they are doing something usefull when on a macro level they are really wasting their time</p><p></p><p>An argument based on they have been here for a few hundred years, therefore they are established, therefore they are acceptable is ridiculous. The consevationist tendency to look at processes over tiny little time scales like this leads to a desire to preserve tiny little snapshots of the evolutionary process as if this is this point in time that matters. </p><p></p><p>In my world you wouldn't have just rats and humans. You would have a range of species that can tolerate living closely with humans. Some of them "native" and some of them naturalised. This is why I consider Grey squirrels and their ilk fantastic species, they are evidence that evolution is in action all around us. Niches are being filled by succesful species. Go out in the morning and have a look around you there are all sorts of species all over the place.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John o'Sullivan, post: 1435681, member: 6170"] Reply to earlier comments. The main ones being that Extinction is a KEY part of evolution. In the past extinctions have been brought about by other natural processes such as asteroid strikes, natural climate cycles, inter species competition now we are driving extinctions. Annihilation is part of the process. Conservationists in Britain are annihilating Ruddy Ducks. There are those that want to annihilate Parakeets and Eagle owls. These actions are of course natural human influences, I don't like them as I think they are misguided and irrelevant, they would involve animals/birds etc being killed in numbers for what I see as stupid reasons. Conservationists delude themselves they are doing something usefull when on a macro level they are really wasting their time An argument based on they have been here for a few hundred years, therefore they are established, therefore they are acceptable is ridiculous. The consevationist tendency to look at processes over tiny little time scales like this leads to a desire to preserve tiny little snapshots of the evolutionary process as if this is this point in time that matters. In my world you wouldn't have just rats and humans. You would have a range of species that can tolerate living closely with humans. Some of them "native" and some of them naturalised. This is why I consider Grey squirrels and their ilk fantastic species, they are evidence that evolution is in action all around us. Niches are being filled by succesful species. Go out in the morning and have a look around you there are all sorts of species all over the place. [/QUOTE]
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