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<blockquote data-quote="Gavin Haig" data-source="post: 1156483" data-attributes="member: 15000"><p>There was a very helpful article in a 'Devon Birds' magazine not too long ago. I cannot lay my hands on it right this minute, but suspect it is the piece entitled 'Continents Apart' by Mike Langman, in vol 58 (1) pp.14-20 (2005). There is also a very handy comparative photo in the 2003 Devon Bird Report, showing a <em>carbo </em>and <em>sinensis </em>side by side - if memory serves, the angle formed by the rear edge of the gular patch needs to be comfortably in excess of 90 degrees before you can consider <em>sinensis</em>, and the photo clearly demonstrates that. On that basis alone your photo shows a <em>carbo</em>, Joe. There are other differences (slighter build, more slender bill, etc), but without the geometry any description is a non-starter...</p><p></p><p>Hope that helps.</p><p></p><p><strong>EDIT</strong> - Correction! I've just found the article (which is excellent, and is in the 'Devon Birds' cited above), and the 'safe' gular patch angle is actually 80+ degrees, not 90+. Well worth acquiring this reference if you genuinely want to try to ID <em>sinensis</em> Cormorants, as long as you don't mind adding a protractor to your birding kit! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gavin Haig, post: 1156483, member: 15000"] There was a very helpful article in a 'Devon Birds' magazine not too long ago. I cannot lay my hands on it right this minute, but suspect it is the piece entitled 'Continents Apart' by Mike Langman, in vol 58 (1) pp.14-20 (2005). There is also a very handy comparative photo in the 2003 Devon Bird Report, showing a [I]carbo [/I]and [I]sinensis [/I]side by side - if memory serves, the angle formed by the rear edge of the gular patch needs to be comfortably in excess of 90 degrees before you can consider [I]sinensis[/I], and the photo clearly demonstrates that. On that basis alone your photo shows a [I]carbo[/I], Joe. There are other differences (slighter build, more slender bill, etc), but without the geometry any description is a non-starter... Hope that helps. [B]EDIT[/B] - Correction! I've just found the article (which is excellent, and is in the 'Devon Birds' cited above), and the 'safe' gular patch angle is actually 80+ degrees, not 90+. Well worth acquiring this reference if you genuinely want to try to ID [I]sinensis[/I] Cormorants, as long as you don't mind adding a protractor to your birding kit! ;) [/QUOTE]
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