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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neil" data-source="post: 1218545" data-attributes="member: 1568">Paul,      I'm using the old TLS adapter which is not as good as the new one which I'm hoping to get soon.  My main reason for getting the Olympus was that I was an Olympus user before Nikon so I have a lot of older Zuiko lens that I would like to use and the 2x Crop Factor is nice to have on a 250/300 mm lens.  I have an old Nikon 300/4 which I'm going to use with the appropriate adapter too.If I didn't have these legacy reasons I would get one of the Canons, probably the 450D, which I compared size-wise and it's almost as small as the E-420. Their noise handling is much better than the Olympus and you should be able to use iso 1600 happily.With manual focus through an f8/f10 lens if the bird is moving (ducks) it's more difficult to judge when you have focus.  I wear graduated bi-focals to which makes this even more difficult. The doves were very cooperative.Neil.</blockquote>