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<blockquote data-quote="mfunnell" data-source="post: 3472274" data-attributes="member: 134332"><p>I see this whole thing (price versus optical improvement) as something of a logrithmic progression, sort of like this<span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: Red"><*></span></span>:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">US$30 binoculars<span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: Red"><**></span></span> probably aren't worth having (I can't see a decent roof bin being manufactured, distributed and sold for this amount).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">US$60 binoculars might be worth having.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">US$125 binoculars are almost certainly worth having.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">US$250 binoculars are probably 50% better<span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: Red"><***></span></span> than $125 binoculars.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">US$500 binoculars are probably 25% better than $250 binoculars.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">US$1,000 binoculars are probably 12% better than $500 binoculars.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">US$2,000 binoculars are probably 6% better than $1,000 binoculars.</li> </ul><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: Red"><*></span> Dont' hold me to the numbers - I'm not claiming accuracy; estimation is the name of the game here</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: Red"><**></span> For roof bins; halve the $ figures for porros and also adjust for format (the larger the objective the higher the price; all else being equal)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: Red"><***></span> "Better" being partly objective; but quite subjective as well - "better" for you might not be the same for me, but my guess is it averages out</span></p><p></p><p>As to value, well, that's up to you. Would you pay $1,000 extra (double the price) for a 6% improvement? Some would, some wouldn't - but I think we might all agree that it's harder to justify as the price goes up. It seems easier to justify an extra $125 for a 50% improvement than it is an extra $1,000 for a 6% improvement - at least it sure is for me. (Note: harder to justify doesn't mean I haven't done it.)</p><p></p><p>The other thing to look for when calculating value-for-money is whether something is above or below the curve. If it's above (as reports suggest something like, say, the 8x42 Tract Toric is - $900 performance for $650) then it's a bit of a bargin, while something below the curve would be a bit of a dud, even if it's otherwise a perfectly fine binocular (ie. fine but overpriced).</p><p></p><p>Don't know if that makes sense to others, but it's roughly how I think about it.</p><p></p><p> ...Mike</p><p></p><p>P.S. See the graph in <a href="http://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=3470124&postcount=34" target="_blank">Post #34</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mfunnell, post: 3472274, member: 134332"] I see this whole thing (price versus optical improvement) as something of a logrithmic progression, sort of like this[SIZE="1"][COLOR="Red"]<*>[/COLOR][/SIZE]: [LIST] [*]US$30 binoculars[SIZE="1"][COLOR="Red"]<**>[/COLOR][/SIZE] probably aren't worth having (I can't see a decent roof bin being manufactured, distributed and sold for this amount). [*]US$60 binoculars might be worth having. [*]US$125 binoculars are almost certainly worth having. [*]US$250 binoculars are probably 50% better[SIZE="1"][COLOR="Red"]<***>[/COLOR][/SIZE] than $125 binoculars. [*]US$500 binoculars are probably 25% better than $250 binoculars. [*]US$1,000 binoculars are probably 12% better than $500 binoculars. [*]US$2,000 binoculars are probably 6% better than $1,000 binoculars. [/LIST] [SIZE="1"][COLOR="Red"]<*>[/COLOR] Dont' hold me to the numbers - I'm not claiming accuracy; estimation is the name of the game here [COLOR="Red"]<**>[/COLOR] For roof bins; halve the $ figures for porros and also adjust for format (the larger the objective the higher the price; all else being equal) [COLOR="Red"]<***>[/COLOR] "Better" being partly objective; but quite subjective as well - "better" for you might not be the same for me, but my guess is it averages out[/SIZE] As to value, well, that's up to you. Would you pay $1,000 extra (double the price) for a 6% improvement? Some would, some wouldn't - but I think we might all agree that it's harder to justify as the price goes up. It seems easier to justify an extra $125 for a 50% improvement than it is an extra $1,000 for a 6% improvement - at least it sure is for me. (Note: harder to justify doesn't mean I haven't done it.) The other thing to look for when calculating value-for-money is whether something is above or below the curve. If it's above (as reports suggest something like, say, the 8x42 Tract Toric is - $900 performance for $650) then it's a bit of a bargin, while something below the curve would be a bit of a dud, even if it's otherwise a perfectly fine binocular (ie. fine but overpriced). Don't know if that makes sense to others, but it's roughly how I think about it. ...Mike P.S. See the graph in [url=http://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=3470124&postcount=34]Post #34[/url] [/QUOTE]
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