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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ibramr" data-source="post: 3211327" data-attributes="member: 106125">Yes, I have heard that few months ago from an excellent provider of the three alpha binoculars, specifically for birders.  The exception to his argument was the Ultravid 7x42 HD as the other two alphas do not offer comparable models--thus, he keeps it in stock.  His objections were related to: a) the minimum focusing distance for Leica is inferior to the other two alphas, and b) light transmission for Leica is not at the same level as in Swarovski and top tier Zeiss.  This seller could be right, but my experience is that Leica Trinovid 8x32 BN, Ultravid 8x20, and Ultravid HD 8x42 provide an excellent "package" that Zeiss FL series (albeit they come close) do not match.  By package, I mean the optic characteristics, handling, perceived durability, and service.  I am not a user of post FL Zeiss models, or Swarovski, hence, do not have a comment.  It is noteworthy that I am in the market for a newer 8x32, and in all likelihood, I will go for Ultravid HD rather to a Swarovski (mainly for compactness).  Enjoy in good health.PS.  I will still keep the Trinovid 8x32 BN.</blockquote>