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Dove id in Singapore. (1 Viewer)

Nutcracker

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Can't see the neck pattern well, it's hidden behind the shoulder. But the bill doesn't show any sign of the characteristic 'fleshy' character of young pigeons & doves (y)
 

johnallcock

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Can't see the neck pattern well, it's hidden behind the shoulder. But the bill doesn't show any sign of the characteristic 'fleshy' character of young pigeons & doves (y)
You can see the neck pattern well enough to see brown feathers on the sides of the neck. You should be able to see spots on an adult, even at this angle.

The brown tones to the head, pale eye/grey eyering and fluffy undertail coverts also support it being a young bird.
Like this one: http://orientalbirdimages.org/search.php?Bird_Image_ID=186787&Bird_ID=686&Bird_Family_ID=&Location=
 

Nutcracker

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You can see the neck pattern well enough to see brown feathers on the sides of the neck. You should be able to see spots on an adult, even at this angle.

The brown tones to the head, pale eye/grey eyering and fluffy undertail coverts also support it being a young bird.
Like this one: http://orientalbirdimages.org/search.php?Bird_Image_ID=186787&Bird_ID=686&Bird_Family_ID=&Location=
What about the bill then?

Maybe not a full adult, but not a youngster either.
 

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