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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ceasar" data-source="post: 1425678" data-attributes="member: 26155">It looks like people are taking the economy into consideration now.  It probably explains the reason there have be so many long threads on moderately priced binoculars made by Hawke and Zen, et al, in this forum."Close to the best" has always been adequate,  even in good economic times.  Some people can never justify buying a Rolex when a Timex will adequately and accurately give them the time of day.  The great majority of the people who access Bird Forum are interested in Birds first and then the tools they need to study them:  Binoculars, Camera's and Spotting Scopes.  Most are more than adequate for the purpose.The SE is a superb binocular by any definition.  It's Porro Prism construction makes it easy for trained technicians to repair and maintain them.  Roof Prisms are a different beast.  They are harder to make and repair.  They require very precise quality control, and are always being "tweaked" with new costly technologies in order to meet the the goal of making them as good, optically, as the best Porro Prisms.Bob</blockquote>