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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nixterdemus" data-source="post: 3614663" data-attributes="member: 96265">Could partial be tied to Vortex/Nikon/new quality upscale bins, short on advertising cost/overhead,  sold online below comparative performance bins price.My Viper 8.5x50 has worked fine, was made in Japan and I think I paid $300 as a discontinued model. At the most $350 I've slept since then. FOV 305' is tight though it is a nice flat view that to these eyes exhibit no field curvature. Everything is in focus. The 15x56 Vulture isn't as nice as me 20x56 MV, but for just under 400 clams it performs very nicely. At that price I see no competition.I tried to find something to buy at EO though most of what I looked at was around 20% off of MSRP and in reality little savings compared to other vendors. Other bins that looked interesting have been out for seven years or so and are overpriced against newer offerings. Not bad bins just not the value they were once or at the "discounted" level now.As much as I enjoy the Celestron M2 scope I've no interest in their bins. Especially w/o customer service.  Your better name bins are going to take care of you regardless. I spent many hours perusing their wares and I bought a bin from them. They are nice and helpful folks. I'm sorry they're rolling up the sidewalks, closing the shutters.</blockquote>