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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Adam W" data-source="post: 1855799" data-attributes="member: 81080">Of course if i was a driver i would try and stop someone from drink driving if i happened to see them trying to do it but i wouldnt expect to go out of my way to track down and stop drink drivers.Equally if i saw someone trying to kill a raptor you can rest assured i would not turn a blind eye but i dont see why i should be expected to go out of my way to track down people persecuting raptors just because i also shoot.Shooting organisations are against raptor persecution they have quite publically joined forces and supported organisations such as the RSPB but thats totally different to individuals doing it which is my point.There seems to be a very common misconception that all shooters are part of one big group all protecting each other but the truth is most are just individuals that dont have much at all to do with many other shooters and my point is why should they go out of their way to find and try and stop people doing these things, they do their bit by obeying the law themselves.Like you say with the driving case you would expect the associations to be involved in campaigns etc but not individual drivers taking it upon themselves.</blockquote>