Edward woodwood
Member
99.99% or more escapees
very uneasy about the whole situation...
can see problems round the corner
Tim
very uneasy about the whole situation...
can see problems round the corner
Tim
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Eagle Owls in Yorkshire?? (1 Viewer)
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Edward woodwood
Member
why is everyone knocking the BOU and RSPB? Perfectly valid comments to me...
the Bird Forum armchair experts strike again
Tim
the Bird Forum armchair experts strike again
Tim
StevieEvans
Well-known member
Tim Allwood said:
Hi Tim
Well we're all entitled to our own speculative opinions ;-)
Nowts tha botha man.
I'd be worried too, if i had a pair of crystal balls.
Its a European bird! not some creature from another planet !
Steve.
StevieEvans said:
I say let them stay - escapees or visitors from Europe, it matters not.
Don't forget the other numerous birds and mammals now accepted as part of the scenery that have in the past been bought to our shores by human hand or made their own way here - rabbit, brown hare, grey squirrel, little owl, muntjack, little egret etc. etc.
If Holyrood get their way we'll soon have to contend with the wolf and beaver (+ all the ensuing human & environmental havoc) so by comparison the Eagle Owl should be small beer.
salty
geordie birder
to answer an older post.
yes, they are on MOD land - during the daytime (while at roost), when they are not feeding the young - ie now.
the male bird goes off on his own during the winter, and the female will rarely be seen much at this time of the year, the farmer says she often comes over at last light to hunt in the fields near to the nest site.
she does however, during the winter, perch in the tree right near the farmers bedroom window, causes a right racket at night as she calls away!
they will pair up again in early spring, and start raising a fresh batch of young eagle owls.
oh, and forget about going down for a look, enjoy the programme, and give the owls some peace people.
after all, they are now protected
yes, they are on MOD land - during the daytime (while at roost), when they are not feeding the young - ie now.
the male bird goes off on his own during the winter, and the female will rarely be seen much at this time of the year, the farmer says she often comes over at last light to hunt in the fields near to the nest site.
she does however, during the winter, perch in the tree right near the farmers bedroom window, causes a right racket at night as she calls away!
they will pair up again in early spring, and start raising a fresh batch of young eagle owls.
oh, and forget about going down for a look, enjoy the programme, and give the owls some peace people.
after all, they are now protected
StevieEvans
Well-known member
Vipers said:
Hi, must be a different secret pair then.....
SE
wolfbirder
Well-known member
Salty says forget giving the birds a visit, enjoy the TV programme, and give the birds some peace and quiet....or words to that effect.
I agree with you Salty, a lot of people visiting would cause immense disturbance. Problem is, some people will say its ok for you to say that, you can pop along when you like(dont take that the wrong way but inevitably some will). Would it not be possible to set up an operation where visitors could make a payment and be transported in a van with blacked out windows to the site, in controlled small numbers? Obviously this would have to be in agreement with the MOD and farmer. It might sound ludicrous to some but thats not a huge thing to set up and would protect the site. For example people could be picked up at a set site twenty miles away. then transported to the site. I would be happy to make £20 payment to watch these wonderful birds in the wild, whether they are of original captive stock or not. They are wild birds now, living independantly in wild conditions.
I know this post will probably attract cynical sarcastic replies, but its only an enquiry based on a desire to see the birds.....thats all!
I agree with you Salty, a lot of people visiting would cause immense disturbance. Problem is, some people will say its ok for you to say that, you can pop along when you like(dont take that the wrong way but inevitably some will). Would it not be possible to set up an operation where visitors could make a payment and be transported in a van with blacked out windows to the site, in controlled small numbers? Obviously this would have to be in agreement with the MOD and farmer. It might sound ludicrous to some but thats not a huge thing to set up and would protect the site. For example people could be picked up at a set site twenty miles away. then transported to the site. I would be happy to make £20 payment to watch these wonderful birds in the wild, whether they are of original captive stock or not. They are wild birds now, living independantly in wild conditions.
I know this post will probably attract cynical sarcastic replies, but its only an enquiry based on a desire to see the birds.....thats all!
London Birder
Well-known member
also bred in Northumberland and Moray and Nairn .... apparently.
I agree (on the whole) with the earlier positive sentiments about the RSPB and certainly feel they have the right to be cautious, as indeed do the BOU, I'm still totally bewildered as to where the national population figures come from and the lack of comments regarding other breeding pairs (in the TV programme), is there a sustainable UK population or not? It just all seems clouded in confusion and not a little conjecture. I wonder about the racial make up of the UK population also.
I agree (on the whole) with the earlier positive sentiments about the RSPB and certainly feel they have the right to be cautious, as indeed do the BOU, I'm still totally bewildered as to where the national population figures come from and the lack of comments regarding other breeding pairs (in the TV programme), is there a sustainable UK population or not? It just all seems clouded in confusion and not a little conjecture. I wonder about the racial make up of the UK population also.
Keith Reeder
Watch the birdie...
salty said:
So does that mean you won't be going again, Salty?
I don't really see a problem myself.
Despite the hints in the programme and on this thread, the specific location is still vague enough that you'd have to know where they were before going to see them (Awful big place to start looking "on spec"), and I have a lot of sympathy for that wolfbirder suggests - a controlled viewing regime, which should be fairly easy to acheive.
Keith Reeder
Watch the birdie...
Very true Ian - but I was thinking that because it's MOD-controlled access, a certain level of control could be applied: don't they do something similar on Salisbury Plain for bustard and/or stone curlew?
Tim Allwood said:
You're probably right about the 99.99%. But surely the <0.01% is enough for it to be treated as a british bird?
Why are you uneasy about the situation? It is a european bird that has quite possibly lived in Britain before and lives in neighbouring countries with no problems. What possible reason is there to be uneasy and what problems do you see round the corner?
It would be interesting to hear your side of the argument.
Barn Owl Centre
Active member
I have prepared a list that for some will make interesting reading. This list is never viewed by the public because of the many concerns it will create, this upsets the falconry world because they have lost control of their sport. Nowadays it’s the rescue centres like ours that end up picking up the pieces. The Eagle Owl programme as probably done more harm than good.
If the Eagle Owl is here to stay then can I ask what happens to the non-native captive bred birds listed below, do they stay here to or are we to be told by the likes of the BTO that they are here because they have migrated?
This list is constantly being updated every 3 months every year. This is what happens when birds of prey can be bought from as little as £10.
The species that will always create a conservation concern are Eagle Owls, this was before the programme, Harris Hawks, this being an American bird & now the most common bird of prey bred in captivity, breeding also is included in peoples back gardens in built up areas of our twons & cities, Ferruginous Hawks, again its American, Great Horned Eagle Owls, again its American. These species hunt our UK population of Barn Owls, Little Owls & Tawny Owls.
:brains: Question: With the captive population of Owls, Hawks etc so high & so cheap & where anyone can own one, why should the Eagle Owl only migrate to mainland Britain, why not to any other continent? Surely the captive breeding & mess created answers the questions why it is here.
STATUS-SPECIES-LOCATION
LOST-AFRICAN GREY PARROT-Staffs
FOUND-AFRICAN GREY PARROT-Hampshire
FOUND-AFRICAN GREY PARROT-Isle of Wight
REUNITED-BARN OWL-Cheshire
REUNITED-BARN OWL-Staffs
REUNITED-BARN OWL-Staffs
LOST-BARN OWL-Cheshire
LOST-BARN OWL-Devon
LOST-BARN OWL-Staffordshire
LOST-BARN OWL-North Devon
LOST-BARN OWL- E. Yorkshire
LOST-BARN OWL-Suffolk
FOUND-BARN OWL-Lancashire
FOUND-BARN OWL- Lancashire
FOUND-BARN OWL-N. Yorkshire
DEAD-BARN OWL-Cheshire
DEAD-BARN OWL-North Devon
DEAD-BARN OWL-Co. Durham
DEAD-BARN OWL-Lincolnshire
DEAD-BARN OWL- Tyne and Wear
DEAD-BARN OWL-Hants
DEAD-BARN OWL-Hants
DEAD-BARN OWL-N. Yorkshire
DEAD-BARN OWL-Essex
DEAD-BARN OWL-Gloucestershire
FOUND-BENGAL EAGLE OWL-Bedfordshire
FOUND-BENGAL EAGLE OWL-Stafordshire
DEAD-BENGAL EAGLE OWL-Somerset
STOLEN-COMMON BUZZARD-Essex
STOLEN-COMMON BUZZARD-Bedfordshire
REUNITED-COMMON BUZZARD-Essex
REUNITED-COMMON BUZZARD-Newcastle
FOUND-COMMON BUZZARD-N. Humberside
REUNITED-EGYPTIAN VULTURE-South Yorks
REUNITED-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-E. Yorkshire
REUNITED-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-Essex
LOST-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-N. Yorkshire
LOST-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-Devon
LOST-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-Pembrokeshire
LOST-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-Kent
FOUND-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-Gloucestershire
FOUND-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-Lincolnshire
DEAD-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-Staffordhire
REUNITED-FERRUGINOUS HAWK- Kent
REUNITED-FERRUGINOUS HAWK-Ipswich
LOST-FERRUGINOUS HAWK-West Yorkshire
LOST-FERRUGINOUS HAWK-West Lothian
REUNITED-GOSHAWK-Staffordshire
LOST-GOSHAWK-Wilts
LOST-GOSHAWK-Gloucestershire
LOST-GOSHAWK-Herefordshire
LOST-GOSHAWK- Leicestershire
DEAD-GOSHAWK-N. Yorkshire
DEAD-GOSHAWK-Middx
STOLEN-GOSHAWK-Gloucestershire
LOST-GREAT HORNED OWL-Oxon
LOST-GREAT HORNED OWL-Leicestershire
LOST-GYR FALCON-West Midlands
STOLEN-GYR/PEREGRINE HYBRID-Kent
REUNITED-GYR/PEREGRINE HYBRID-North Lincs
LOST-GYR/PEREGRINE HYBRID-Oxon
REUNITED-GYR/PRAIRIE FALCON-Kent
REUNITED-GYR/SAKER FALCON-Gwent
REUNITED-GYR/SAKER FALCON-Middx
LOST-GYR/SAKER FALCON-Kent
LOST-GYR/SAKER FALCON-Devon
LOST-GYR/SAKER FALCON-Manchester
DEAD-GYR/SAKER FALCON-Liverpool
DEAD-GYR/SAKER FALCON-Cheshire
REUNITED-GYR/SAKER/PEREGRINE-Cambridgeshire
STOLEN-HARRIS HAWK-Perthshire
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Kent
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Devon
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Cheshire
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Hants
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Gwent
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Cheshire
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Devon
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Gloucestershire
REUNITED- HARRIS HAWK-West Lothian
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Cheshire
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Essex
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Gwent
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Co Durham
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Staffs
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-N Lincs
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Staffs
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-West Lothian
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-West Yorkshire
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Glasgow
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Herts
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Lanarkshire
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Warks
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Cheshire
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Staffs
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Warwickshire
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Norfolk
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Norfolk
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Suffolk
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Cheshire
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-N Lincs
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Kent
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Norfolk
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Northants
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Norfolk
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Norfolk
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Isle of Wight
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Nottinghamshire
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Cornwall
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Surrey
FOUND-HARRIS HAWK-West Yorkshire
FOUND-HARRIS HAWK-Northumberland
FOUND-HARRIS HAWK-Beds
FOUND-HARRIS HAWK-West Yorkshire
FOUND-HARRIS HAWK-Cornwall
FOUND-HARRIS HAWK- Lancs
DEAD-HARRIS HAWK-Essex
DEAD-HARRIS HAWK-Worcester
DEAD-HARRIS HAWK-Essex
DEAD-HARRIS HAWK-Northumberland
LOST-HOBBY-Worcestershire
REUNITED-KESTREL-Essex
REUNITED-KESTREL-Worcester
REUNITED-KESTREL-Suffolk
REUNITED-KESTREL-Norfolk
LOST-KESTREL-Worcester
LOST-KESTREL-Somerset
LOST-KESTREL-Mid Glamorgan
DEAD-KESTREL-Norfolk
DEAD-KESTREL-Leeds
DEAD-KESTREL-Liverpool
DEAD-KESTREL-Norfolk
REUNITED-LANNER FALCON-North Yorkshire
FOUND-LANNER FALCON-Mid Glamorgan
FOUND-LANNER FALCON-Somerset
FOUND-LANNER HYBRID-Staffs
DEAD-LANNER/SAKER FALCON-Northants
DEAD-LUGGER FALCON-Somerset
DEAD-LUGGER FALCON-Surrey
DEAD-LUGGER FALCON-Warwickshire
FOUND-PARAKEET-Surrey
REUNITED-PEREGRINE FALCON-Gloucestershire
REUNITED-PEREGRINE FALCON-Worcestershire
REUNITED-PEREGRINE FALCON-Brighton
REUNITED-PEREGRINE FALCON-Midlands
LOST-PEREGRINE FALCON-Perthshire
LOST-PEREGRINE FALCON-Lancs
LOST-PEREGRINE FALCON-Beds
LOST-PEREGRINE FALCON-Kent
LOST-PEREGRINE FALCON-Bedfordshire
LOST-PEREGRINE FALCON-Somerset
LOST-PEREGRINE FALCON-N. Lincs
DEAD-PEREGRINE FALCON-Lincs
DEAD-PEREGRINE FALCON-N.Yorkshire
LOST-PEREGRINE/BARBARY HYBRID-Kent
DEAD-PEREGRINE/GYR HYBRID-Glamorgan
LOST-PEREGRINE/LANNER HYBRID-Swansea
FOUND-PEREGRINE/LANNER HYBRID-Lancs
LOST-PEREGRINE/MERLIN-Shropshire
REUNITED-PEREGRINE/PRAIRIE HYBRID-Glasgow
REUNITED-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Essex
REUNITED-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Humberside
REUNITED-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Newport Wales
REUNITED-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Notts
REUNITED-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Lancashire
LOST-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Essex
LOST-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Kent
LOST-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Worcestershire
DEAD-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Gloucestershire
DEAD-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Wilts
DEAD-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-West Lothian
LOST-PEREGRINE/MERLIN HYBRID-Lancs
REUNITED-RED-TAILED HAWK-West Midlands
REUNITED-RED-TAILED HAWK-Ayrshire
LOST-RED-TAILED HAWK-Glasgow
LOST-RED-TAILED HAWK-Lancs
DEAD-RED-TAILED HAWK-Gloucestershire
DEAD-RED-TAILED HAWK-Essex
REUNITED-SAKER FALCON-Warks
REUNITED-SAKER FALCON-Kent
REUNITED-SAKER FALCON-Lancs
LOST-SAKER FALCON-York
LOST-SAKER FALCON-Somerset
LOST-SAKER FALCON-Devon
LOST-SAKER FALCON-Worcestershire
LOST-SAKER FALCON-Kent
DEAD-SAKER FALCON-Cambs
DEAD-SAKER FALCON-Swansea
DEAD-SAKER FALCON-Manchester
LOST-SPARROWHAWK-Lancs
LOST-SPARROWHAWK-Glamorgan
LOST-SPARROWHAWK-Glasgow
FOUND-SPARROWHAWK-Staffs
DEAD-SPARROWHAWK-Cambs
DEAD-SPARROWHAWK-Perthshire
REUNITED-STEPPE EAGLE-Bucks
FOUND-TAWNY EAGLE-Lancs
LOST-TURKEY VULTURE-North Yorkshire
This list consists of the ones that have been reported, this is a very small percentage to what is actually LOST, DEAD, STOLEN & REUNITED. Illegally released bird go unrecorded!
This is a list that is updated every 3 months.
How many are aware of the scale of this problem & who should be concerned?
Fox Hunting News Update: One of the Eagle Owls being used by the Fox Hunters in Yorkshire flew over the hounds, sadly one of the hounds grabbed the Owl as it flew low over their heads & killed it out right. This occured 2 weeks ago. No media coverage was given because that would of been very embarrassing for the hunt.
For the record there are an estimated 11 breeding pairs of Eagle Owls throughout the UK, in addition to this there have also been during 2004 a reported pair of Harris Hawks at the nest with a brood of 4 young. These I have been told have been shot. Who is to blame for the non native species in this country, conservations or the Falconry world, it is a fact that the falconry world are not controlling their sport they still encourage more people to own a bird of prey, this is to soak up the numbers that are no longer wanted at the end of the breeding season. Allowing the breeding of birds of prey to get out of control like it as is beyond me. Its now to late to regulate bird of prey keeping/breeding.
If the Eagle Owl is here to stay then can I ask what happens to the non-native captive bred birds listed below, do they stay here to or are we to be told by the likes of the BTO that they are here because they have migrated?
This list is constantly being updated every 3 months every year. This is what happens when birds of prey can be bought from as little as £10.
The species that will always create a conservation concern are Eagle Owls, this was before the programme, Harris Hawks, this being an American bird & now the most common bird of prey bred in captivity, breeding also is included in peoples back gardens in built up areas of our twons & cities, Ferruginous Hawks, again its American, Great Horned Eagle Owls, again its American. These species hunt our UK population of Barn Owls, Little Owls & Tawny Owls.
:brains: Question: With the captive population of Owls, Hawks etc so high & so cheap & where anyone can own one, why should the Eagle Owl only migrate to mainland Britain, why not to any other continent? Surely the captive breeding & mess created answers the questions why it is here.
STATUS-SPECIES-LOCATION
LOST-AFRICAN GREY PARROT-Staffs
FOUND-AFRICAN GREY PARROT-Hampshire
FOUND-AFRICAN GREY PARROT-Isle of Wight
REUNITED-BARN OWL-Cheshire
REUNITED-BARN OWL-Staffs
REUNITED-BARN OWL-Staffs
LOST-BARN OWL-Cheshire
LOST-BARN OWL-Devon
LOST-BARN OWL-Staffordshire
LOST-BARN OWL-North Devon
LOST-BARN OWL- E. Yorkshire
LOST-BARN OWL-Suffolk
FOUND-BARN OWL-Lancashire
FOUND-BARN OWL- Lancashire
FOUND-BARN OWL-N. Yorkshire
DEAD-BARN OWL-Cheshire
DEAD-BARN OWL-North Devon
DEAD-BARN OWL-Co. Durham
DEAD-BARN OWL-Lincolnshire
DEAD-BARN OWL- Tyne and Wear
DEAD-BARN OWL-Hants
DEAD-BARN OWL-Hants
DEAD-BARN OWL-N. Yorkshire
DEAD-BARN OWL-Essex
DEAD-BARN OWL-Gloucestershire
FOUND-BENGAL EAGLE OWL-Bedfordshire
FOUND-BENGAL EAGLE OWL-Stafordshire
DEAD-BENGAL EAGLE OWL-Somerset
STOLEN-COMMON BUZZARD-Essex
STOLEN-COMMON BUZZARD-Bedfordshire
REUNITED-COMMON BUZZARD-Essex
REUNITED-COMMON BUZZARD-Newcastle
FOUND-COMMON BUZZARD-N. Humberside
REUNITED-EGYPTIAN VULTURE-South Yorks
REUNITED-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-E. Yorkshire
REUNITED-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-Essex
LOST-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-N. Yorkshire
LOST-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-Devon
LOST-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-Pembrokeshire
LOST-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-Kent
FOUND-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-Gloucestershire
FOUND-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-Lincolnshire
DEAD-EUROPEAN EAGLE OWL-Staffordhire
REUNITED-FERRUGINOUS HAWK- Kent
REUNITED-FERRUGINOUS HAWK-Ipswich
LOST-FERRUGINOUS HAWK-West Yorkshire
LOST-FERRUGINOUS HAWK-West Lothian
REUNITED-GOSHAWK-Staffordshire
LOST-GOSHAWK-Wilts
LOST-GOSHAWK-Gloucestershire
LOST-GOSHAWK-Herefordshire
LOST-GOSHAWK- Leicestershire
DEAD-GOSHAWK-N. Yorkshire
DEAD-GOSHAWK-Middx
STOLEN-GOSHAWK-Gloucestershire
LOST-GREAT HORNED OWL-Oxon
LOST-GREAT HORNED OWL-Leicestershire
LOST-GYR FALCON-West Midlands
STOLEN-GYR/PEREGRINE HYBRID-Kent
REUNITED-GYR/PEREGRINE HYBRID-North Lincs
LOST-GYR/PEREGRINE HYBRID-Oxon
REUNITED-GYR/PRAIRIE FALCON-Kent
REUNITED-GYR/SAKER FALCON-Gwent
REUNITED-GYR/SAKER FALCON-Middx
LOST-GYR/SAKER FALCON-Kent
LOST-GYR/SAKER FALCON-Devon
LOST-GYR/SAKER FALCON-Manchester
DEAD-GYR/SAKER FALCON-Liverpool
DEAD-GYR/SAKER FALCON-Cheshire
REUNITED-GYR/SAKER/PEREGRINE-Cambridgeshire
STOLEN-HARRIS HAWK-Perthshire
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Kent
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Devon
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Cheshire
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Hants
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Gwent
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Cheshire
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Devon
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Gloucestershire
REUNITED- HARRIS HAWK-West Lothian
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Cheshire
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Essex
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Gwent
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Co Durham
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Staffs
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-N Lincs
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Staffs
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-West Lothian
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-West Yorkshire
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Glasgow
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Herts
REUNITED-HARRIS HAWK-Lanarkshire
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Warks
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Cheshire
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Staffs
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Warwickshire
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Norfolk
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Norfolk
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Suffolk
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Cheshire
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-N Lincs
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Kent
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Norfolk
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Northants
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Norfolk
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Norfolk
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Isle of Wight
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Nottinghamshire
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Cornwall
LOST-HARRIS HAWK-Surrey
FOUND-HARRIS HAWK-West Yorkshire
FOUND-HARRIS HAWK-Northumberland
FOUND-HARRIS HAWK-Beds
FOUND-HARRIS HAWK-West Yorkshire
FOUND-HARRIS HAWK-Cornwall
FOUND-HARRIS HAWK- Lancs
DEAD-HARRIS HAWK-Essex
DEAD-HARRIS HAWK-Worcester
DEAD-HARRIS HAWK-Essex
DEAD-HARRIS HAWK-Northumberland
LOST-HOBBY-Worcestershire
REUNITED-KESTREL-Essex
REUNITED-KESTREL-Worcester
REUNITED-KESTREL-Suffolk
REUNITED-KESTREL-Norfolk
LOST-KESTREL-Worcester
LOST-KESTREL-Somerset
LOST-KESTREL-Mid Glamorgan
DEAD-KESTREL-Norfolk
DEAD-KESTREL-Leeds
DEAD-KESTREL-Liverpool
DEAD-KESTREL-Norfolk
REUNITED-LANNER FALCON-North Yorkshire
FOUND-LANNER FALCON-Mid Glamorgan
FOUND-LANNER FALCON-Somerset
FOUND-LANNER HYBRID-Staffs
DEAD-LANNER/SAKER FALCON-Northants
DEAD-LUGGER FALCON-Somerset
DEAD-LUGGER FALCON-Surrey
DEAD-LUGGER FALCON-Warwickshire
FOUND-PARAKEET-Surrey
REUNITED-PEREGRINE FALCON-Gloucestershire
REUNITED-PEREGRINE FALCON-Worcestershire
REUNITED-PEREGRINE FALCON-Brighton
REUNITED-PEREGRINE FALCON-Midlands
LOST-PEREGRINE FALCON-Perthshire
LOST-PEREGRINE FALCON-Lancs
LOST-PEREGRINE FALCON-Beds
LOST-PEREGRINE FALCON-Kent
LOST-PEREGRINE FALCON-Bedfordshire
LOST-PEREGRINE FALCON-Somerset
LOST-PEREGRINE FALCON-N. Lincs
DEAD-PEREGRINE FALCON-Lincs
DEAD-PEREGRINE FALCON-N.Yorkshire
LOST-PEREGRINE/BARBARY HYBRID-Kent
DEAD-PEREGRINE/GYR HYBRID-Glamorgan
LOST-PEREGRINE/LANNER HYBRID-Swansea
FOUND-PEREGRINE/LANNER HYBRID-Lancs
LOST-PEREGRINE/MERLIN-Shropshire
REUNITED-PEREGRINE/PRAIRIE HYBRID-Glasgow
REUNITED-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Essex
REUNITED-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Humberside
REUNITED-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Newport Wales
REUNITED-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Notts
REUNITED-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Lancashire
LOST-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Essex
LOST-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Kent
LOST-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Worcestershire
DEAD-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Gloucestershire
DEAD-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-Wilts
DEAD-PEREGRINE/SAKER HYBRID-West Lothian
LOST-PEREGRINE/MERLIN HYBRID-Lancs
REUNITED-RED-TAILED HAWK-West Midlands
REUNITED-RED-TAILED HAWK-Ayrshire
LOST-RED-TAILED HAWK-Glasgow
LOST-RED-TAILED HAWK-Lancs
DEAD-RED-TAILED HAWK-Gloucestershire
DEAD-RED-TAILED HAWK-Essex
REUNITED-SAKER FALCON-Warks
REUNITED-SAKER FALCON-Kent
REUNITED-SAKER FALCON-Lancs
LOST-SAKER FALCON-York
LOST-SAKER FALCON-Somerset
LOST-SAKER FALCON-Devon
LOST-SAKER FALCON-Worcestershire
LOST-SAKER FALCON-Kent
DEAD-SAKER FALCON-Cambs
DEAD-SAKER FALCON-Swansea
DEAD-SAKER FALCON-Manchester
LOST-SPARROWHAWK-Lancs
LOST-SPARROWHAWK-Glamorgan
LOST-SPARROWHAWK-Glasgow
FOUND-SPARROWHAWK-Staffs
DEAD-SPARROWHAWK-Cambs
DEAD-SPARROWHAWK-Perthshire
REUNITED-STEPPE EAGLE-Bucks
FOUND-TAWNY EAGLE-Lancs
LOST-TURKEY VULTURE-North Yorkshire
This list consists of the ones that have been reported, this is a very small percentage to what is actually LOST, DEAD, STOLEN & REUNITED. Illegally released bird go unrecorded!
This is a list that is updated every 3 months.
How many are aware of the scale of this problem & who should be concerned?
Fox Hunting News Update: One of the Eagle Owls being used by the Fox Hunters in Yorkshire flew over the hounds, sadly one of the hounds grabbed the Owl as it flew low over their heads & killed it out right. This occured 2 weeks ago. No media coverage was given because that would of been very embarrassing for the hunt.
For the record there are an estimated 11 breeding pairs of Eagle Owls throughout the UK, in addition to this there have also been during 2004 a reported pair of Harris Hawks at the nest with a brood of 4 young. These I have been told have been shot. Who is to blame for the non native species in this country, conservations or the Falconry world, it is a fact that the falconry world are not controlling their sport they still encourage more people to own a bird of prey, this is to soak up the numbers that are no longer wanted at the end of the breeding season. Allowing the breeding of birds of prey to get out of control like it as is beyond me. Its now to late to regulate bird of prey keeping/breeding.
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Keith Reeder
Watch the birdie...
Wow!
That's a sobering first post, Barn Owl Centre (welcome, by the way).
Harris hawks breeding? Can't say I'm surprised...
This really does give a sense of the scale of the problem of escaped/illegally released birds of prey and - to me - makes even more likely that the Yorkshire birds are escapees (and I was 99.9% certain of that already).
That's a sobering first post, Barn Owl Centre (welcome, by the way).
Harris hawks breeding? Can't say I'm surprised...
This really does give a sense of the scale of the problem of escaped/illegally released birds of prey and - to me - makes even more likely that the Yorkshire birds are escapees (and I was 99.9% certain of that already).
salty said:to answer an older post.
yes, they are on MOD land - during the daytime (while at roost), when they are not feeding the young - ie now.
the male bird goes off on his own during the winter, and the female will rarely be seen much at this time of the year, the farmer says she often comes over at last light to hunt in the fields near to the nest site.
she does however, during the winter, perch in the tree right near the farmers bedroom window, causes a right racket at night as she calls away!
they will pair up again in early spring, and start raising a fresh batch of young eagle owls.
oh, and forget about going down for a look, enjoy the programme, and give the owls some peace people.
after all, they are now protected
Quote by Salty in post no. 74 ' but i will still be going to the Yorkshire site next year'
Quote by Salty in post no. 286 ' oh, and forget about going down for a look, enjoy the programme, and give the owls some peace people.'
Does your advice not apply to yourself then Salty?
cheers Clen
Barn Owl Centre
Active member
Hi Keith, thanks for the reply. The scale of the problem is getting like the cat & dog situation. There are rescue centres popping up everywhere to pick up the pieces. The Eagle Owl situation is one thing, I dread the devastion the Harris Hawk will create if they take residence.
It is a fact that Eagle Owls will take & drive a localised Owl population away, this I have witnessed on a few accounts, finding Barn Owl & Tawny Owl carcusses around a site where I have been called out to a few escappees tells me everything. A Barn Owl innocently out hunting to survive will end up as prey to an Eagle Owl or even a Harris Hawk. For conservation benefits I think the BTO are creating huge problems for the future. These birds should have been recaptured & taken over to Europe for release. They do not belong here!
Some like the idea of Eagle Owls in the UK, I work with them every day & night & beleive me they are a fascinating bird to work with & to understand but in the wild is bad for our wildlife. We are only a small island aren't we.
It is a fact that Eagle Owls will take & drive a localised Owl population away, this I have witnessed on a few accounts, finding Barn Owl & Tawny Owl carcusses around a site where I have been called out to a few escappees tells me everything. A Barn Owl innocently out hunting to survive will end up as prey to an Eagle Owl or even a Harris Hawk. For conservation benefits I think the BTO are creating huge problems for the future. These birds should have been recaptured & taken over to Europe for release. They do not belong here!
Some like the idea of Eagle Owls in the UK, I work with them every day & night & beleive me they are a fascinating bird to work with & to understand but in the wild is bad for our wildlife. We are only a small island aren't we.
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