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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jos Stratford" data-source="post: 1709947" data-attributes="member: 12449">The totals presented do imply something, the immediate impact is 'gee, look at high numbers of raptors being predated'. As you start to look at the totals however, the impressive totals begin to look a little suspicious - it certainly isn't predation at a local level (Snowy Owls and Red Kites for example both figure on the list), then look a little more and it begins to appear that these are are not even totals at a national basis, but rather for the whole of Europe (as well as Snowy Owl and Gyr, Saker and Scops Owls are also listed).And with the lack of time frame, I might suppose these refer to any predation ever recorded. So, yes, I stick to the point I made, the implication of this post was to suggest large numbers of raptors and owls being preyed upon, but the data as presented is totally meaningless, it indicates nothing of the sort.I presume Mikkola's work has somewhere reference to period and area of the predation - if it doesn't, then I suggest his work is flawed.</blockquote>