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wuwu1277

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Hi, These two blur photos were taken in Singapore yesterday, not very sure if can be IDed, pls advise, thanks a lot in advance
 

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Deb Burhinus

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I’m getting the impression of a Black Kite here rather than an eagle sp. I need to look at a larger screen - juvenile Brahminy would be a possibility here too?
 
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Deb Burhinus

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Juvenile Brahminy Kite.

Grahame
Was just about to post again having looked at some images and enlarged the OP but you beat me to it.

Yes, absolutely Brahminy Kite - a conclusion I had already come to - noting the unbarred remiges and general structure, underwing pattern and broader hand cf to Black Kite (not immediately obvious on the rather small/dark image my mobile phone.)
 
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THE_FERN

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Pale wing panels with dark primary tips are pointers to brahminy kite here, as is lack of a forked tail (although that's difficult to judge from these photos)
 

Deb Burhinus

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Pale wing panels with dark primary tips are pointers to brahminy kite here
That wouldn’t be a main criteria for me to separate juvenile Brahminy tbh, juvenile migrans also can present with pale bases to the primaries contrasting with darker fingers

even lineatus the default sub-sp - although not as extensive

Agree the point though as part of the list of features already highlighted above but as you say the “lack of a forked tail,“ would not be part of the equation here because of the angle which is why I didn’t mention it 🙂
 
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wuwu1277

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Dear all experts: Thank all of you so much for the kind ID descriptions. I learnt to differentiate these two birds. Again, thanks a lot!
 

viator

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I’m getting the impression of a Black Kite here rather than an eagle sp. I need to look at a larger screen - juvenile Brahminy would be a possibility here too?
On the question at the end... Brahminy Kite is a common resident breeder, Black Kite is a rare passage migrant/winter visitor - from memory just 1-2 records so far this winter a couple of months ago.
 

Deb Burhinus

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On the question at the end... Brahminy Kite is a common resident breeder, Black Kite is a rare passage migrant/winter visitor - from memory just 1-2 records so far this winter a couple of months ago.
Thanks Viator - I am not familiar with Singapore, hence the question, and part of the reason I finally concluded it was a Brahminy after checking range maps, so thank you for the clarification - Always appreciate words from the ground!
 
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THE_FERN

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That wouldn’t be a main criteria for me to separate juvenile Brahminy tbh, juvenile migrans also can present with pale bases to the primaries contrasting with darker fingers

even lineatus the default sub-sp - although not as extensive

Agree the point though as part of the list of features already highlighted above but as you say the “lack of a forked tail,“ would not be part of the equation here because of the angle which is why I didn’t mention it 🙂
In my experience, in the field, the wing panels are usually quite clear. Maybe others have other experience.
 

Deb Burhinus

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In my experience, in the field, the wing panels are usually quite clear. Maybe others have other experience.
Well that’s the point I was making - juvenile Black Kite also show white ‘wing panels’ and dark primaries from below which is why I would not necessarily use the ‘wing panel’ as separating criteria for juvenile Black Kite and juvenile Brahminy Kite.

See juvenile Brahminy
juvenile lineatus

Anyway, that’s just me and my ‘experience in the field’ and how I would go about prioritising distinguishing features - the fact that the OP shows an unbarred wing panel cf to the barred remiges of Black Kite to me is more significant 🙂
 

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