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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Renze de Vries" data-source="post: 2405545" data-attributes="member: 10024">Chad,These are 2nd generation, with rubber armor (1st gen. pebbled leather indeed) and the focusing wheel still up front. There's one thing however which is somewhat different from the 2nd generation Elites I've seen: the focusing wheel here is finely knurled while on my pics (7x36 and 8x42 Elite) the knurling is wider spaced and could be of some rubber material (finish). So it's possible the 2nd generation might have had a cosmetic update at some point.(Sorry, can't say anything on coating).With respect to 1st and 2nd generation Elites, my information on model/issue so far is this:1st gen.: 7x35 Classic, 8x42 Elite2nd gen.: 7x36, 8x42, 10x42 all marked Eliterenze</blockquote>