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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dries1" data-source="post: 3647929" data-attributes="member: 26646">This sounds like the original EDG had the hinge problems, although if it is loose right out of the box, it's probably a QA/QC problem in assembly. Chuck fixed his on his own with having the appropriate tools and obviously the aptitude and desire with some guidance. I have two 8X50 octarems I will be sending to Suddarth for repair and one of them has a loose hinge. They have the right tools for the job, and since I will likely be selling them in the future, I will let them fix it before I cause any damage.By the way, that pic of the garden pliers makes me shudder that someone might actually think, hey this will work, lets give it a go. I am glad that Chuck got his fixed the correct way.Andy W.</blockquote>