English compound names (1 Viewer)

[Mysticete]

I notice today that Stormpetrel and Honeybuzzard are completely gone off the list of changes...

 

[VATH 82]

I notice today that Stormpetrel and Honeybuzzard are completely gone off the list of changes...

Hallelujah

 

[chris butterworth]

I've just noticed, John Boyd ( who is usually quite a sensible chap ) has used Banded-Pitta. Come on, I know there are quite major differeces between the opposite sides of the Atlantic but that's just silly.

Chris

 

[Richard Klim]

TiF English names

I've just noticed, John Boyd has used Banded-Pitta.

Surely that's to be expected - John states that AOU's hyphenation rules are applied to English names within the TiF Checklist (ie hyphenating mutual members of monophyletic groups wherever possible):
www.jboyd.net/Taxo/changes.html

The IOC-style names have been fully Americanized (...AOU-style hyphenation).

 

[chris butterworth]

Surely that's to be expected - John states that AOU's hyphenation rules are applied to English names within the TiF Checklist (ie hyphenating mutual members of monophyletic groups wherever possible):
www.jboyd.net/Taxo/changes.html

Thanks Richard, I hadn't read that bit :-C. Still blo**y silly though :C

Chris

 

[bitterntwisted]

"Blackbird" was easier and quicker for englishmen to say than "black bird" which is why the words merged in the 1700s (right?) naturally and without the help of checklist committees. "Storm petrel" is only somewhat easy to say "fast," but not really. You end up with "stormp-etrel," which causes an awkward "rmp" sound in which one of those letters will eventually degrade. This is why "laymen" don't say it that way!

There is no pause between words in spoken language. Strom-petrel, stormpetrel and storm petrel sound exactly the same.

 

[MJB]

There is no pause between words in spoken language. Strom-petrel, stormpetrel and storm petrel sound exactly the same.

On pauses, I agree with you 100%, provided you insert 'improperly-' before 'spoken'.

I disagree with you about 'strom-petrel', though...:-O:-O
(Typos always get you!)
MJB

 

[Snapdragyn]

In addition to the issue of pauses (or lack thereof) there is the matter of emphasis or stress. I would say 'storm petrel' with an equal stress on 'storm' & the first syllable of 'petrel'; I would not place as strong of a stress on the following syllables in 'storm-petrel' or 'stormpetrel'.

 

[MJB]

In addition to the issue of pauses (or lack thereof) there is the matter of emphasis or stress. I would say 'storm petrel' with an equal stress on 'storm' & the first syllable of 'petrel'; I would not place as strong of a stress on the following syllables in 'storm-petrel' or 'stormpetrel'.

Neatly-put, Snapdragyn!
MJB