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Falkland Islands passerines (1 Viewer)

Richard Klim

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Campagna, St Clair, Lougheed, Woods, Imberti & Tubaro (in press). Divergence between passerine populations from the Malvinas – Falkland Islands and their continental counterparts: a comparative phylogeographical study. Biol J Linn Soc. [abstract] [supp info]

[See also Cobb's Wren.]
 

njlarsen

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So that paper seems to contain the DNA evidence that was asked for in the comments to the previous SACC proposal. When was "the Great Patagonian Glaciation of the Pleistocene"?

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Richard Klim

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'Malvinas' Richard? tut tut! ;)
I was just quoting the title of the paper, but didn't use it in the thread title. ;)

A rather sensitive study for a joint Argentine/British/Canadian team!

I'd hoped (not very seriously) that Falkland Ground Tyrant, Falkland Grass Wren, Falkland Thrush, Falkland Pipit and Falkland White-bridled Finch might be potential armchair ticks... :C

PS. Worst is 'MFI' - naming a wonderful archipelago after flat-pack furniture...
 
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Snapdragyn

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Does anyone with access know what regions are represented by the samples of T. aedon for clusters B, C, & A (besides the 'Falkinas' :p )?
 

Jacana

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Does anyone with access know what regions are represented by the samples of T. aedon for clusters B, C, & A (besides the 'Falkinas' :p )?

I can't seem to find any specific site localities, but this is a map in the paper which gives a rough indication of them...
 

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l_raty

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Does anyone with access know what regions are represented by the samples of T. aedon for clusters B, C, & A (besides the 'Falkinas' :p )?

See the .pdf in attachment. (This is a ML consensus tree, based on Troglodytes, Cistothorus, and Thryomanes sequences recovered from GenBank [in part using the accession numbers given in the supplementary info of the paper -- some seqs were deposited without an ID, and can't be retrieved through searching the database 'the usual way'; not all seqs have been made accessible in BOLD yet]. The sequences are the same as in the paper, plus a few more. The GenBank accession number, the BOLD process ID if relevant, and the sampling locality are indicated for each of them.)

"A" was found in Cobb's Wrens, as well as in House Wrens from southern Argentina (Tierra del Fuego, Santa Cruz, Rio Negro, Neuquen), and in 5 House Wrens from further north (Corrientes and Chaco, where otherwise mainly "B" [and one "C" in Corrientes] were found). Southern birds migrate north in winter, but I'm unclear what the timing of the migrations is, and to which extent this could explain that. Eg, this is a bird from this haplogroup, in Corrientes, on a 17 Oct: would it be plausible still to have a wintering Patagonian House Wren up there at this date...?
The single, somewhat divergent mainland haplotype (almost as distant from other mainland birds as it is from cobbi) was found in a bird from Rio Negro.

"B" was found in central and northern Argentina (Buenos Aires, Entre Rios, Misiones, Corrientes, Chaco, Formosa, Jujuy), as well as in Bolivia.

"C" was found only in north-eastern Argentina, where it appears to overlap in range with "B" (Misiones, Corrientes, Formosa).

(I must confess that I'm not too sure I see a case for splitting in these data, actually. It is now fully clear that Cobb's Wren is genetically very deeply embedded in House Wren. [And it is also -- though arguably somewhat less deeply -- embedded in Southern House Wren if you choose to split the latter... Which itself appears embedded in Northern House Wren, however...] To some extent the data also suggests that gene flow is quite likely occuring on the mainland, between birds with haplotypes much more diverged than cobbi's and the Patagonian haplogroups are.)

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