Finch? Spore (1 Viewer)

[wuwu1277]

Hi, these two photos were taken in Singapore today, they are not really on Singapore bird list, can you pls kindly advise ID? Thanks a lot in advance

 

[Alexander Stöhr]

Second bird is a Zebra finch (Taeniopygia guttata). It is a common cage bird, with (I hope) unique colourful pattern, wicch makes a certain ID even without knowing all birds of the world.
Second one might be a white variant/mutation of this species, bill shape looks good for this.

 

[THE_FERN]

These look like domestic forms of Australian zebra finch.

 

[Andy Adcock]

Cage birds are not allowed here..

 

[Andy Adcock]

These look like domestic forms of Australian zebra finch.

Australian?

Never heard them calld that before and I've seen them on at least two, Indonesian islands.

 

[_pauls]

I can't help with the ID other than agreeing with the above but I do wish you'd put "Singapore" not "Spore" in the titles - I had no idea where you meant first few times I saw it and I suspect I'm not alone. I suspect a lot of people would be perplexed if I put the location for my local queries as "The Toon".

 

[Alexander Stöhr]

I had to look for the english name of this common cage bird on google and on german wikipedia, there are two ssp mentioned, one is
"Australian Zebra finch" and its the form to be held in captivity, while the other ssp "Taeniopygia guttata guttata" is rarely held according to this site:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebrafink and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebra_finch

I didnt know this, too, Andy!

 

[THE_FERN]

Australian?

Never heard them calld that before and I've seen them on at least two, Indonesian islands.

Haha. Well it was my complete ignorance of its native range and a misguided attempt to be helpful by indicating original range. But of course I'm probably right: bird is commonest in Australia and apparently that (sub)species is sometimes split as "Australian zebra finch". I suspect Australian birds are the origin of domestic forms...

Interesting that they're native to Timor but not (say) southern New Guinea

 

[Andy Adcock]

Haha. Well it was my complete ignorance of its native range and a misguided attempt to be helpful by indicating original range. But of course I'm probably right: bird is commonest in Australia and apparently that (sub)species is sometimes split as "Australian zebra finch". I suspect Australian birds are the origin of domestic forms...

Interesting that they're native to Timor but not (say) southern New Guinea

Hadn't realised they were sometimes split, I've seen them on Flores and the Gili Islands too.

 

[wuwu1277]

Dear all: thank you so much for all the ID advices. Now I know both are Zebra Finches. Thank all of you again!

 

[wuwu1277]

I can't help with the ID other than agreeing with the above but I do wish you'd put "Singapore" not "Spore" in the titles - I had no idea where you meant first few times I saw it and I suspect I'm not alone. I suspect a lot of people would be perplexed if I put the location for my local queries as "The Toon".

Dear _pauls: well noted your comments. I will pay more attention to it. Thank you

 

[wuwu1277]

Cage birds are not allowed here..

Der Andy Adcock: Sorry, I didn't know these are cage birds, I sighted quite a number of them in the field near a reservoir. Pls advise if I should remove the post from this Forum. Thank you

 

[Andrew Whitehouse]

Free living birds are okay, even if they're escaped, so there's no problem with posting these.

 

[Andy Adcock]

Der Andy Adcock: Sorry, I didn't know these are cage birds, I sighted quite a number of them in the field near a reservoir. Pls advise if I should remove the post from this Forum. Thank you

Apologies, your comment about them not being real Singapore birds, made me assume that they were in a cage or other collection.

 

[wuwu1277]

Apologies, your comment about them not being real Singapore birds, made me assume that they were in a cage or other collection.

Dear Andy Adcock: You are most helpful all the time. I want to personally thank you for all the advices I received from you!

 

[Andy Adcock]

Dear Andy Adcock: You are most helpful all the time. I want to personally thank you for all the advices I received from you!

You're always welcome, if I can help.

 

[viator]

Hadn't realised they were sometimes split, I've seen them on Flores and the Gili Islands too.

Andy, from IOC list;

Timor Zebra Finch T. castanotis is a potential split from (Australian) Zebra Finch T. guttata (Payne 2010; Olsson & Alström 2020).

This is the subspecies you can find across the Lesser Sundas

 

[Andy Adcock]

Andy, from IOC list;

Timor Zebra Finch T. castanotis is a potential split from (Australian) Zebra Finch T. guttata (Payne 2010; Olsson & Alström 2020).

This is the subspecies you can find across the Lesser Sundas

Thanks viator