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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Julian61" data-source="post: 3365346" data-attributes="member: 116235">Thanks ChilliThis is helpful. I've had some outstanding feedback on the 8x sf and been able to try them out alongside some ht s.  I really wanted some feedback from Swaro owners to balance my eventual decision. I should have thanked you for your previous comments on this thread, all of which has been enlightening.  I recognise that nothing is going to beat Swaro optics, particularly in this latest range.  Have Zeiss countered this excellence with their own great quality glass with interesting new departures in fov and ergonomics?  Does Swaro build quality and second to none after sales service counteract these factors?  Ultimately it will Bo me a d my eyes that will be the decider though others experiences count as a guide.  This will be my probable departure from Leica whose UVHD+ are great but not up to the others in the areas I've mentioned,not for me anyway.  This purchase will be my last big purchase for a long while...I need to get it right.  Thank you again.</blockquote>