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Message: <blockquote data-quote="perterra" data-source="post: 3224144" data-attributes="member: 103709">As long as people try to use forums to bully the maker/marketer into submission, you'd be crazy to get involved in something you have no control over. In the case of zenray, the poster is now refusing to give any more info to zen since he has already said he sent it. Zen folks say we dont have the info, poster says I'm not sending it again. How would it be worse if the rep wasnt on the forum?On the second part of industry standards. It's all catch phrases and buzz words any more. I come from a line of work where the phrase "if it aint written, it's rumor" is used way too often. You see the same in todays marketing, dont list hard specs, then if the specs change no big deal. But for myself, I dont much care what the specs are, FMC, MC, Bk7 or BaK4, types of prism coatings, they all mean very little to me. If I like the view, I dont much care. Which may be why I prefer the Monarch 5 over the Monarch 7.</blockquote>