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Message: <blockquote data-quote="colleenc" data-source="post: 2262976" data-attributes="member: 76425">First try with gouache, since out doors I will have to paint on the fly without drawing I thought this would be a good way to practice...I had the id forum check this one....California Gull, has pale legs and is smaller than the WesternI used a toned gesso made of liquitex grey gesso, white gesso, matte medium,, naples yellow and white, all acrylic. Plain gesso was too rough and absorbent. This is a warm grey, I will be trying out some other colors. I coat both sides of rough 140# Arches, as you can see I brush it on and leave a free white edge, which gives it a "frame" and I like the look of it.This has a sort of old fashioned look somehow, the ground mellows the colors even tho the bird is heavily painted5x8 gouache on gessoed paper</blockquote>