Fraser Hill Malaysia May 15 (1 Viewer)

[49bentley]

Can someone please identify this bird? Probably a juvenile. Take in Fraser Hill Malaysia in May.
Thanks
Chris

 

[Butty]

The local whistling-thrush?

 

[Larry Sweetland]

The local whistling-thrush?

There are two options there

 

[49bentley]

Thanks Butty and Larry.

 

[andyb39]

There are two options there

Is Blue Whistling Thrush seen there outside the winter months? I'm not sure what juvenile Malayan looks like.

 

[49bentley]

Thanks Andyb39.

 

[Larry Sweetland]

Is Blue Whistling Thrush seen there outside the winter months? I'm not sure what juvenile Malayan looks like.

Apparently both are seen year round according to ebird. IIRC the form of Blue Whistling Thrush resident in peninsular Malaysia looks more like Malayan too, which doesn't help things.

 

[49bentley]

Thanks Larry.

 

[redpandacat]

Can Black-and-crimson Oriole be ruled out? Feet colour is a better match. And at least superficially looks similar. No sign of red on breast, and bill is quite pale but perhaps a female or juvenile? I don't have experience with this species - hopefully someone can say one way or another.

 

[49bentley]

Thanks Redpandacat. I think you may be onto something. Just checked google and found a couple of pics that closely resemble mine.

 

[Andy Adcock]

There are two options there

I don't trust many claims of Malayan unless they're from David Bakewell.

That really does look like a female Black and Crimson Oriole based on the underparts but the bill is the wrong colour.

 

[Andy Adcock]

Is Blue Whistling Thrush seen there outside the winter months? I'm not sure what juvenile Malayan looks like.

Malayan is rare and very hard to ID, the local race of Blue Whistling Thrush, has a yellow bill and is hard to separate from Malayan. I spent a long time here, looking for Malayan as have many others.

 

[49bentley]

Thanks Andy.

 

[Grahame Walbridge]

Can Black-and-crimson Oriole be ruled out? Feet colour is a better match. And at least superficially looks similar. No sign of red on breast, and bill is quite pale but perhaps a female or juvenile? I don't have experience with this species - hopefully someone can say one way or another.

Great shout @repandacat! I have been struggling with this from the outset, unable to see why it was a Myophonus, the structure seems all wrong; too slim, long-winged and long-tailed + legs too short etc, not to mention bare part colours are wrong, even when factoring in the light. Agree (moulting) female/juvenile Black-and-Crimson Oriole.

Andy, suggest 'odd' bill colour is merely a product of strong lighting.

Grahame

 

[49bentley]

Thanks Grahame.