Fujifilm HS50 EXR has arrived ! (1 Viewer)

[earleybird]

I've only been using my HS50 for a couple of weeks and still finding my way round the settings etc.

i've used a Fuji HS10 for a number of years and one thing that strikes me in retrospect is the huge improvement in my images over that period as I began to find the best from the camera from experience.

From what I've seen so far of HS50 images from the UK I would say that we need to wait until the light is a lot better and users become more familiar with the camera.

Many bridge camera users are not familiar with manual settings , or BIF, BOF, DOF, EC+-, rule of thirds and other aspects of photography so their images are hardly a fair comparison source for IQ.

I have started a new thread to discuss the Hs50 and SX50 and others , I hope that you will contribute to the thread as your experience and obvious talent would be a valuable contribution.

 

[kennethwfd]

now shooting in JPEG A priority, any better?

 

[earleybird]

thats a lot better kenneth wouldn't you say ? I like the second image a lot .

Blackbirds are a subject that I find very tricky to capture well so I usually wimp out and avoid Blackbirds . I think the black colour against predominently light backgrounds can confuse the auto exposure setting and many compensate with the EC+- control .

 

[earleybird]

I have been trying all morning to capture a Female Chaffinch who hovers above the seed tray like a humming bird and then darts in nabs a sunflower heart and flies off.

I've never seen this bird other than on the ground or hovering above the seed tray.

i have set my camera to ISO 800 f/6.4 and have managed to get 800-950 shutter speed then I set to 16fps continuous shooting but the blasted bird hasn't been back.:-C

Just managed a couple of bursts of a male Blackcap doing a very good TreeCreeper impression climbing down the bole of the tree.:t:

 

[Joms]

I really don't want this to deviate into a pi$$ing contest, but I think I can answer with some shots from various posters in SX50 thread (and I'm sure that Roy can easily back up this answer with a couple of his own)

http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=421215&d=1356908497

http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=419414&d=1355597416

http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=424703&d=1358804169

http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=424704&d=1358804188

http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=428204&d=1360707784

http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=424681&d=1358798585

http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=424683&d=1358798601

http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=430007&d=1361719700

http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=430180&d=1361792376

http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=430181&d=1361792392

http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=431916&d=1362933730

http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=431917&d=1362933756

Note the poor light on most of the photos; the last two of which are taken at ISO 1250 and 1600 respectively - that amount of noise I usually see on much lower ISO on photos taken with HS50.

I mean, I too was seriously interested in this camera but after seeing virtually all HS50 pics posted here and on dpreview, I decided to go for Canon. Don't get me wrong - I like many of the captures, but pixel for pixel IQ just isn't on the Canon level. Of course, I can easily understand that for documentary purposes and users who aren't really into pixel peeping and post processing, HS50 might be a better camera, with its fast autofocus and manual zoom. Anyway, looking forward to seeing new pics - good luck and hope you guys get used to it soon and prove me wrong :t:

Something to cheer you up... I've sold my SX40 and replaced it with HS30 then I sold it again and replaced it with HS50.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joms_birding/8611504923/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joms_birding/8605489170/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joms_birding/8601305259/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joms_birding/8593348971/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joms_birding/8593348971/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joms_birding/8581031897/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/joms_birding/8582134706/in/photostream/

In terms of ergonomics, handling, speed and performance, SX50 is no match to HS50. In terms of IQ, they are very similar.

 

[earleybird]

Something to cheer you up... I've sold my SX40 and replaced it with HS30 then I sold it again and replaced it with HS50.


In terms of ergonomics, handling, speed and performance, SX50 is no match to HS50. In terms of IQ, they are very similar.

thats the first informed review we've had yet from someone who has actually used both cameras . !:t: excellent.

I'll take a good look through your images later.

I suspect that there are a large number of toggers who are brand loyal (I am probably one of those ) and many others who will make their camera selection on a variety of criteria not just the image quality.

I have made my camera purchase now but I can see there are many other folk out there agonising over which camera to buy and dreading making a mistake. In the UK we are lucky enough to be able to try stuff then return it for a full credit under distance selling legislation .

thanks for the post

 

[roger1234]

any good?

 

[roger1234]

just adjusted it.

 

[roger1234]

not a great shot as it was pretty dull,but i think these two are in love?

 

[roger1234]

again adjusted.

 

[earleybird]

again adjusted.

Ahhhh they must be an item for sure !

Such a difficult shot in amongst the branches against a light sky background. I've never managed a shot that I've been satisfied with. I need a lot more practice and better understanding of all the settings

 

[roger1234]

Ahhhh they must be an item for sure !

Such a difficult shot in amongst the branches against a light sky background. I've never managed a shot that I've been satisfied with. I need a lot more practice and better understanding of all the settings

hi nick, i think once these settings have been mastered,the pictures will certainly improve,the camera is excellent,i cannot fault it at all.

 

[earleybird]

I think I have detected a serious flaw with the Fuji HS50 !:C



Its too bluddy good...


i'm currently averaging between 30 and 100+ shots a day even more now that I am using the burst mode. Previously with my HS10 I would have binned about 90% of them .
With the HS50 however , I am only binning a fraction of that and I am running out of space everywhere and running out of time sorting, titling, editing, cropping, resizing and saving them all on the hard drive, Flickr, Bird Forum etc

At this rate I will be keeping way over 1500 good images per month to deal with or 18,000 per year :eek!::eek!:

 

[earleybird]

hi nick, i think once these settings have been mastered,the pictures will certainly improve,the camera is excellent,i cannot fault it at all.

so glad that you are luvin the HS50 Roger. i knew you would appreciate it.:t:

Have you tried the burst mode yet ? flippin awesome.... mind you you don't half end up with a lot of images :eek!:

 

[kennethwfd]

just adjusted it.

a lot better while the tail appears out of focus, the wing feathers are clear

 

[kennethwfd]

been out again missed a fieldfare

Obliging collared dove. The biggest change is better light - hazy sun at times, and changed resloution to JPEG. If you go back through my gallery pics, particularly the ones of the baby swallows, you will see the same softness in my HS20pics as well as earlier HS50 pics. I would suggest that the supplied software is the culprit

 

[earleybird]

I've been trying to get a good image of this little fella for hours.Some call them Dunnock but I still call them Hedge Sparrows .

I have about 12x images now, all spoilt by a small twig grrrr. So I went out and cut all the twigs off the bush :t:

ISO 800 1/650 f/6.4 Fl 111mm distance approx 8ft ( not my normal settings but left over from high ISO high shutter speed setting to capture hovering bird )

Just one solitary capture without the offending twig but with other intruding stuff. i expect it would be worth some PP if I had Photoshop

last image is entitled 'Ouch.. who left this bluddy twig here ?'

 

[earleybird]

If you go back through my gallery pics, particularly the ones of the baby swallows, you will see the same softness in my HS20pics as well as earlier HS50 pics. I would suggest that the supplied software is the culprit

pity about the Fieldfare :- but some nice collared Doves by way of compensation. I must make an effort to catch mine. What were your settings for the Dove shot Kenneth ? did you lighten the second image ?

I think the softness noticed in some images taken with super zooms is due to the camera software compensating for camera shake at long focal lengths.

The HS50 has lens IS (image stabilisation) . try turning off the IS in the camera settings then zoom to max zoom hand held and see what the camera has to deal with !:eek!::eek!::eek!:

Its a miracle it can produce an image at all.

 

[kennethwfd]

same bird in different light. A priority mode, camera sharpness high, noise reduction low
( have since reset it to standard )

 

[kNikS]

kNicks I appreciate your interest in having a debate between the Canon SX50 and the Fuji HS50 but this isn't the thread to have it in. Its a Fuji forum and a Fuji HS50 thread. Go start you own thread on the canon forum!

Well I specifically stated that I don't want this thread to deviate in vs-type one but it was you who brought that topic here, remember? Such thread btw already exists ("Bridge camera shootout") but so far only one HS50 user (Biancone) posted his impressions.

What is it with you people ? why are you always so intent on spoiling everybody elses fun eh ?
You see a popular thread on a particular bridge camera and although you do not use a HS50 yourself and have never taken a single picture with an HS50 you just can't help butting in with your uninformed ,unwanted 2x cents worth .?:C . Is it that you now feel that you have bought the wrong camera ?

However since you have posted I will answer your comments.

The images you posted are completely useless as a comparison.

1. There is no exif data available ,?
2. We do not know what part of the World they were taken in or the prevailing light conditions.?
3. We have no idea whether they were hand held or tripod?
4. We do not know the distance of the subject from the camera ? One shot looks like a captive bird at scarely 3x feet.

In order for there to be a meaningful direct comparison between any two cameras it is essential that the cameras involved take the same shot at the same time in the same conditions with the same subject and with identical settings . Any other comparison is completely worthless

You may not like it, but others who watch and write in this thread aren't here only for your fun but to try to learn how good this camera really is. And while generally good (or not so good) impression of 800p resized pics taken through double glazing may be perfectly fine for your needs, I believe this is an extremely low set standard for the rest of the people.

That said, I didn't bother to write all of the exif info not because I find it unimportant but because it's not really meant to be a direct comparison. I've merely chosen the photos I think I'm yet to see/are hard to replicate with HS50 in whatever conditions. All of those are full or near full zoom, hand held and with IS turned on I believe, mostly in poor or less than perfect light. Also, all except barbet (Malaysia) and hawk in the rain (Massachusetts) are from UK. So it's by no means a test - it's just sort of standard I would like to see achieved with HS50 before and if I decide to get it.