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<blockquote data-quote="DunnoKev" data-source="post: 1807790" data-attributes="member: 38448"><p>Bit of a biiiiig presumption there.. I'd love to know the train of thought that brought you to that one...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Good for you. Now check the sliding scales used in the penalties and you'll suss why I pulled you up on that previous posting.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yup, and again, sliding scales are brought into play. Where it's seen delegated responsibilities have been lacking necessary controls/checks, they get hit harder than where the individual employee responsible has been flouting rules/regs, especially where, whether you choose to believe it or not, it was admitted that the criminal actions were carried out without the knowledge of the employer- who has done what any decent employer would do and dismissed the individual.</p><p></p><p>You called for all to be treated the same way, regardless of the evidence of levels of complicity. Sorry, you can't have that when the supporting argument you drag out doesn't have the same penalty for all????</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No they don't get away scot free. After all, we're talking about a case here where someone employed in the industry clearly didn't get away with it, did he??? As for the rest of this segment, well, scales again I'm afraid. After all, unleaded petrol has three cancer causing agents in it, and there's quite a few peeps out there discharging that into the environment on a daily basis.. Hang 'em, hang 'em all.</p><p></p><p></p><p>They don't. That's the beauty of a law. Again, sliding and scale.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, being entirely lazy here because it's late so I'll look back on this thread for an example.. ah, yup, some in the industry it appears are sacking peeps who breaks the rules. Simples.</p><p></p><p>You cannot condemn the whole because of the few. Progress will only be seen through education. On both sides it seems.</p><p></p><p>DK</p><p>--</p><p><em>Of course, if you choose to disagree with my arguments, that is your prerogative. It's a free country. But even in a free country, we are entitled to expect more intelligent, responsible debate than is currently taking place on the internet.. "How I fell foul of the internet lynch mob", Chris Tookey, Daily Mail 29/04/10</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DunnoKev, post: 1807790, member: 38448"] Bit of a biiiiig presumption there.. I'd love to know the train of thought that brought you to that one... Good for you. Now check the sliding scales used in the penalties and you'll suss why I pulled you up on that previous posting. Yup, and again, sliding scales are brought into play. Where it's seen delegated responsibilities have been lacking necessary controls/checks, they get hit harder than where the individual employee responsible has been flouting rules/regs, especially where, whether you choose to believe it or not, it was admitted that the criminal actions were carried out without the knowledge of the employer- who has done what any decent employer would do and dismissed the individual. You called for all to be treated the same way, regardless of the evidence of levels of complicity. Sorry, you can't have that when the supporting argument you drag out doesn't have the same penalty for all???? No they don't get away scot free. After all, we're talking about a case here where someone employed in the industry clearly didn't get away with it, did he??? As for the rest of this segment, well, scales again I'm afraid. After all, unleaded petrol has three cancer causing agents in it, and there's quite a few peeps out there discharging that into the environment on a daily basis.. Hang 'em, hang 'em all. They don't. That's the beauty of a law. Again, sliding and scale. Well, being entirely lazy here because it's late so I'll look back on this thread for an example.. ah, yup, some in the industry it appears are sacking peeps who breaks the rules. Simples. You cannot condemn the whole because of the few. Progress will only be seen through education. On both sides it seems. DK -- [I]Of course, if you choose to disagree with my arguments, that is your prerogative. It's a free country. But even in a free country, we are entitled to expect more intelligent, responsible debate than is currently taking place on the internet.. "How I fell foul of the internet lynch mob", Chris Tookey, Daily Mail 29/04/10[/I] [/QUOTE]
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