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<blockquote data-quote="kkokkolis" data-source="post: 3216720" data-attributes="member: 127913"><p>I have 600 euros or so to spend in cash. My telescopes/ eyepieces/ equipment are more than adequate for what I do, so I'm thinking about a new pair of binoculars. Since I bought my latest I use about 90% binocular/10% telescope and binoculars are around 90% terrestrial/10% astronomy, so you get the point. Terrestrial isn't strictly birding, I like marine/avian life and human activity also (boats and aircraft of any kind) and geology.</p><p> </p><p>Now I have the Pentax Papilio 6.5x21, Zeiss Terra ED 8x42, Canon 18x50 IS UD, some older Asashi Pentax 8x30 (my solar), cheap Bresser 10x50 and a Soviet 8x30 monocular.</p><p> </p><p>I mainly use the first three. I am happy with them, so my mind goes to a lighter Zeiss or Canon for general use. They are both available locally (that's rare and a very good thing). Later I might get a bigger porro for astronomy, like a Fuji or BA8 as sugested, but not now. I light pair will be used more, either in rotation with the Papilio (for travel, biking etc) or paired with the Canons for lower magnification/better FOV.</p><p> </p><p>Binoculars are more expensive here, we don't have most US brands and finding a good pair used is not easy.</p><p> </p><p>So the options are:</p><p> </p><p>1. Zeiss Conquest 8x32 HD. The best binocular in its class. FOV of 8 degrees. </p><p>2. Zeiss Conquest 10x32 HD. Equal to 1, less FOV but higher magnification. I already have 8x42, should I avoid doubling? But what about 3mm exit pupil?</p><p>3. Zeiss Conquest 8x42 HD. I mean selling the Terra and buy this instead. Better color correction and wider AFOV the main advantages.</p><p>4. Zeiss Terra 8x32 ED. Not available here yet. If I am happy with Terra why not saving some money? But if I have the money why not spending it for the Conquest and help the economy? FOV 7.7, not bad.</p><p>5. Zeiss Terra 10x32 ED. the same dilemma. I have 8x, should I go for 10x? What about the exit pupil?</p><p>6. Canon 12x36 II. Here the exit pupil is no problem, there's the IS! And it will be steadier. But FOV is only 5 degrees.</p><p>7. Canon 10x30. Smaller, cheaper, FOV 6 degrees, still smaller than Terra's 7 degrees.</p><p>8. Canon 10x42 L. Why not stretch it? Because it costs over 1400 euros here. Could I live with the remorse?</p><p> </p><p>There are also two Kowa models, 8x32 and 10x32, the second is Prominar BD but the 8x32 seems to be an older model.</p><p> </p><p>That's it I guess. I narrowed it to just two brands and still there are 7-8 options. I ruled out the ultra compacts like 8x20 and 10x25, the Pentax is king in that region with it's short focus.</p><p> </p><p>Rounding it up.</p><p>A. Canon IS or Zeiss tradition?</p><p>B. Double the 8x magnification for more FOV or get 10x?</p><p>C. Is there a justifiable advantage of Conquest over Terra (which I already like)?</p><p>D. If I get the 10-12x Canons, will I still want a 8x32 afterwards?</p><p>E. Is there another option I forgot?</p><p> </p><p>If I get the Terra then I might buy a Canon 10x30 used for the same amount of money. 2 are better than one, isn't that so?</p><p> </p><p>Thank you very much for your patience.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kkokkolis, post: 3216720, member: 127913"] I have 600 euros or so to spend in cash. My telescopes/ eyepieces/ equipment are more than adequate for what I do, so I'm thinking about a new pair of binoculars. Since I bought my latest I use about 90% binocular/10% telescope and binoculars are around 90% terrestrial/10% astronomy, so you get the point. Terrestrial isn't strictly birding, I like marine/avian life and human activity also (boats and aircraft of any kind) and geology. Now I have the Pentax Papilio 6.5x21, Zeiss Terra ED 8x42, Canon 18x50 IS UD, some older Asashi Pentax 8x30 (my solar), cheap Bresser 10x50 and a Soviet 8x30 monocular. I mainly use the first three. I am happy with them, so my mind goes to a lighter Zeiss or Canon for general use. They are both available locally (that's rare and a very good thing). Later I might get a bigger porro for astronomy, like a Fuji or BA8 as sugested, but not now. I light pair will be used more, either in rotation with the Papilio (for travel, biking etc) or paired with the Canons for lower magnification/better FOV. Binoculars are more expensive here, we don't have most US brands and finding a good pair used is not easy. So the options are: 1. Zeiss Conquest 8x32 HD. The best binocular in its class. FOV of 8 degrees. 2. Zeiss Conquest 10x32 HD. Equal to 1, less FOV but higher magnification. I already have 8x42, should I avoid doubling? But what about 3mm exit pupil? 3. Zeiss Conquest 8x42 HD. I mean selling the Terra and buy this instead. Better color correction and wider AFOV the main advantages. 4. Zeiss Terra 8x32 ED. Not available here yet. If I am happy with Terra why not saving some money? But if I have the money why not spending it for the Conquest and help the economy? FOV 7.7, not bad. 5. Zeiss Terra 10x32 ED. the same dilemma. I have 8x, should I go for 10x? What about the exit pupil? 6. Canon 12x36 II. Here the exit pupil is no problem, there's the IS! And it will be steadier. But FOV is only 5 degrees. 7. Canon 10x30. Smaller, cheaper, FOV 6 degrees, still smaller than Terra's 7 degrees. 8. Canon 10x42 L. Why not stretch it? Because it costs over 1400 euros here. Could I live with the remorse? There are also two Kowa models, 8x32 and 10x32, the second is Prominar BD but the 8x32 seems to be an older model. That's it I guess. I narrowed it to just two brands and still there are 7-8 options. I ruled out the ultra compacts like 8x20 and 10x25, the Pentax is king in that region with it's short focus. Rounding it up. A. Canon IS or Zeiss tradition? B. Double the 8x magnification for more FOV or get 10x? C. Is there a justifiable advantage of Conquest over Terra (which I already like)? D. If I get the 10-12x Canons, will I still want a 8x32 afterwards? E. Is there another option I forgot? If I get the Terra then I might buy a Canon 10x30 used for the same amount of money. 2 are better than one, isn't that so? Thank you very much for your patience. [/QUOTE]
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