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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Farnboro John" data-source="post: 3757560" data-attributes="member: 36432">Essentially what you are pointing out is the need for suppression of mesopredators and high intelligence opportunists such as corvids. This requires top predators, in avian terms Golden Eagles (persecuted by the mindless morons who shoot) and in terrestrial terms wolves, whose total world depredations on humans are logarithmic powers less than those of the road vehicle and would also benefit the environment in both direct control and behaviour modification of the over-sized deer population.Both of these activities would be better carried out by top predators, whose prey selection criteria match the requirements of the ecosystem, than by the incompetence masked as accuracy that is carried out by human shooters.A natural level of predators and prey in the environment would ensure a mosaic habitat suitable for all the current inhabitants. The intolerance, and incompetence in management of the single crop approach of grouse farmers, is unnecessary and counter-productive.John</blockquote>