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Message: <blockquote data-quote="denco@comcast.n" data-source="post: 1657620" data-attributes="member: 25300">I think the Orion stuff targets the astronomers more with their bigger apertures. The case it comes with looks like something you would buy at Walmart if you know what I mean. I have found I have a preference for 8X lately. It seems about the perfect magnification. Enough but not too much. This Zeiss 8x20 has a 345 FOV so it is pretty wide but still able to bring stuff pretty close in. I have tried 6X binoculars and it enough magnification for me. 7X is borderline and 8X is perfect. I don't think there is a cheap good monocular. Same way with 8x20 compact binoculars. With the small aperture you have to pay top dollar and get high quality multicoatings and phase corrected prisms to get something that will satisfy you especially if you are used to using a Zeiss 8x32 FL or any other alpha. You or at least I was just not satisfied with the view.     You know what is funny about Zeiss? It seems like they are inside my brain and they know what I want! If I designed binoculars they would be exactly like Zeiss's. It's like on this monocular they read my thoughts and designed a monocular JUST for me. They are amazingly ingenius with their designs and implementation of their designs. They must actually use the binoculars and accessories they design. Amazing.</blockquote>