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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rasmus Boegh" data-source="post: 1421036" data-attributes="member: 1146">Overall the islands are fairly well represented in collections. However, as I also stated in an earlier comment, I would not exclude the possibility that Silvery might have occurred or even still occur there. Purely speculative, but I'm reasonably confident this is a species still "out there" somewhere, perhaps most likely on some of the smaller islands south of Sumatra or west of Borneo (where there appear to have been even fewer recent visitors with an ornithological agenda than to the islands west of Sumatra). Should someone feel tempted going for the latter, it is worth noting that the status of the monkey Presbytis rubicunda carimatae from Karimata Island also could use an update. However, even if the Silvery is "out there", it is certainly unlikely to be in populations high enough to change is status from very seriously endangered - even with a confirmed rediscovery, I doubt it will be another "Clytoctantes experiance".Don't know, and I'm not sure anyone know, as it probably would require measurements of a large number of wild live birds from several widely separated localities (as I'm sure you know, bare parts and things like eyes are typically "problematic" in specimens - the very reason so many species commonly are illustrated/described with incorrect colours of irides, legs, etc). However, the exact subspecies was of some importance due to your comments on the bill, as the nominate Pied is the only member of the entire group where the bill is not largely yellowish. That said, there are some strange things going on with Pied/Torresian in West Papua/Moluccas, but that's an entirely different discussion.</blockquote>

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