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Green Listing 2022 - Joint Thread (2 Viewers)

dantheman

Bah humbug
I can add Bonelli's Warbler this morning for Europe and the World combined list (which shows a lower total than Europe on its own ???
And where are all the UK Green birders who got us rolling this year?;)
Ha. Not done any proper birding hardly this year it seems. A few minor things on the garden list but that's it.

Next month maybe ... ??

;-)
 

Richard Prior

Halfway up an Alp
Europe
I have just added Black grouse which I couldn't see on the list for Europe. I am on a long holiday in SE Sweden, hence the sighting!
Just a thought Gerald, I envy your Green birding credentials in Spain using the pony and trap, but surely you haven’t gone all the way to Sweden using that mode of transport and it’s a long way on a bicycle;)!
 

gerald762

Well-known member
England
My wife and I drove to Sweden. Only 3,200 kms! We are here to see if we like it enough to stay. Having a Swedish wife might tip the decision! It is very different here, many more trees of course so plenty of woodpeckers of course.
 

Richard Prior

Halfway up an Alp
Europe
My wife and I drove to Sweden. Only 3,200 kms! We are here to see if we like it enough to stay. Having a Swedish wife might tip the decision! It is very different here, many more trees of course so plenty of woodpeckers of course.
That’s a real road trip Gerald! Enjoy the more refreshing temperatures up there(y)
 

gerald762

Well-known member
England
It has been cold at night but beautiful sunny days, up to 20C. There is a much more dramatic Spring here, the tree go from nothing to full leaf in 3 weeks! Quite beautiful beech woods, as well as birch, oak and ash. And a few fir trees!
 

gerald762

Well-known member
England
I think a walk after a 3200 km drive does not suddenly turn that Black Grouse green.
Fair comment. Though the sighting was about a month after we arrived. How long one has to stay in a country to qualify as a Green sighting, I don't know! Anyway we are buying a house so I think sightings can be Green from now on, if that is acceptable!!
 

Xenospiza

Distracted
Supporter
Fair comment. Though the sighting was about a month after we arrived. How long one has to stay in a country to qualify as a Green sighting, I don't know! Anyway we are buying a house so I think sightings can be Green from now on, if that is acceptable!!
Haha, good question! Sounds like we need a committee.
I'd say they are "green" as soon as it's your fixed address.
 

Swindon Addick

Registered User
Supporter
Wales
The IOC have just lumped what used to be two species of reed warbler, which may possibly be the first time one of these has been affected by a change during the year? We didn't have African on the list, so the only effect is that Eurasian gets renamed to Common.
 

l_raty

laurent raty
Haha, good question! Sounds like we need a committee.
I'd say they are "green" as soon as it's your fixed address.

I'd say if a location becomes your fixed address, then any sighting obtained using non-motorised transports from this location might arguably be seen as "green" -- including any sighting that would date from before this address was 'officially' fixed.

Any rule will be arbitrary, anyway. ;)

(A non-motorised list is in principle associated to a fixed "base" (the location where you start and end your birding trips). The very principle of combining lists associated to different bases (as we do here) will always be a bit questionable. For instance, I see no good reasons why a single observer would not be allowed to keep several simultaneous non-motorised lists, associated to different bases. You might, for example, wish to keep a list associated to your everyday address in Germany, and a second one associated to your family's place in the Netherlands, if you bird from there as well using a bicycle. Why not call two such lists "green", when considering them independently ? Not doing so would mean losing an incentive to bird "green" when you are in the Netherlands, which would arguably not be a good thing. Combining these two lists into a "global green list" would however quite clearly be objectionable. But, then, combining your Dutch and your German lists into a single "global national list" would not make much sense either...)


I added a Melodious Warbler today which has been singing on a slag heap just over an hour's cycling to the south.

I moved to an area ~100km S of Brussels for a few days (last Wednesday to yesterday), and actually got MW -- a fairly normal bird down there -- two days earlier. :) Also a Black Stork, which was new for the common list.

(Meanwhile, a singing Thrush Nightingale and a King Eider have been found on the Belgian coast... Should be able to try these tomorrow, if things go well.)
 

Xenospiza

Distracted
Supporter
You might, for example, wish to keep a list associated to your everyday address in Germany, and a second one associated to your family's place in the Netherlands, if you bird from there as well using a bicycle.
Hi Laurent, those are good ideas! I always borrow my mother's bike when I am visiting, because I like my traditional tour through the polders. Haven't been "home" since February though...
 

Swindon Addick

Registered User
Supporter
Wales
I've been very slack on green birding trips this summer. Too many opportunities to travel further afield to places I've not been able to visit during the pandemic. But I did forget to update my list, and the UK one, after one day this month:
4 Jun
35 House Martin
36 Swift

Also, I've just updated the world list to reflect the IOC changing a species name on us again - Western Osprey becomes just plain Osprey. We didn't have Eastern on the list, so no effect on the total.
 

Xenospiza

Distracted
Supporter
After a lull caused by a holiday and a lack of new birds to get to (Long-eared Owl should be possible, but it's so hard to find...), I cycled to a Black-crowned Night Heron near Duisburg (a 59 km trip on a very warm evening this week). A German tick for me!
 

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