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Gulls from Pakistan (1 Viewer)


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Taken by me in 1st week of January

I take it ..they are Steppe, Heuglin, Heuglin, Steppe,Steppe


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Steppe, Steppe.....and the younger bird baffles me a little but Heuglin?,


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Hi Himalaya,
I don't know if my comments will be useful, because I really can't comment with any real authority on these gulls, save to say that none strike me as being likely to be anything other than your two candidate taxa at least. I suspect that the fourth image in your first post may depict a heuglini by virtue of the shorter primary projection, seemingly due to active primary moult with the longer outermost feathers still growing. Are there any spread wing shots of this or other birds?
I also suspect that at least the bird in the foreground of the second image on your second post may be a Heuglin's, due to the lack of second generation coverts, generally fresh juvenile wing feathers and some remaining juvenile scapulars, and that at least the most Caspian-like bird in structure in the first image in that second post (the marginally leftmost bird with its neck stretched) seems like a good candidate for 2CY Steppe (2nd generation innermost tertials in a 2CY bird, dark greater coverts as on Caspian etc). But these gulls wintering from the Persian Gulf eastwards are a nightmare!

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