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Message: <blockquote data-quote="lou salomon" data-source="post: 1228513" data-attributes="member: 16268">bill pattern and apparently washed demarcation of black tail band made me think 2cy but now i'm inclined more towards a 1cy (may be it is obvious for more experienced gullers) due to the strong dark breast pattern merging into broad collar and not so pale inner primary window as it usually is in 2nd gen. primaries (plus there's a small p10 mirror in the majority of cachinnans i think). right?</blockquote>