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Message: <blockquote data-quote="lou salomon" data-source="post: 1383395" data-attributes="member: 16268"><p>looks like a 3rd winter to me (4cy now). pretty large p10 mirrors but small primary tips. some are more advanced at this age, showing less brownish coverts and no traces of black in tail anymore - variable. as you see bare parts colour is retarded, compare with the one in #711. usually YLG developes paler iris in 2cy, and it really gets whitish in 3cy spring.</p></blockquote><p></p>