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Habicht 8x30 and EL 8x32 (1 Viewer)

Sequoia Kid

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Hello all,

New member here looking for some help from the wise.

For some time now I've used a fantastic pair of Habicht 8x30's from '98 and I absolutely love them, despite the difficulties that we've all heard about, e.g. small diameter eye cups, slow focus knob... (Actually I've really sort of enjoyed the slow focus as it allows me to really dial it in to access the fantastic sharpness of these little porros). I've really fallen for the astonishing resolution and ability that these have to resolve texture of things. To the point that I've often felt like I could feel the texture with my eyes. (Weird I know, but that's the best way I can explain it.)

I tried a lot of binoculars before I picked up the Habichts used for a great deal, The Monarch HG's, Conquest HD, even the EDG, which I liked a lot but for whatever reason didn't beat the Habichts.

Not too long ago I got a pair of Ultravid HD+ 7x42's, from someone who is actually a member here, as I had heard that they were the bee's knees and I was interested in trying a 7x binocular. I really liked them and could definitely see what folks love about them, super mellow relaxed view, color, size, but again for whatever reason I just never clicked with them and now have them up for sale.

I'm sure I sound fickle, and maybe I am, but I just feel like I was looking for something that I wasn't seeing with the UV and the others. I just feel like at the level of these binoculars I guess I want to have the emotional response to what I am seeing like when I use the Habichts. I mean, I still often just smile at the view from them.

OK, so after all that I'm selling the Leica and that will fund another binocular. I'm thinking that they will be a pair of EL 8x32's as I've tried a lot of different great binoculars from great brands and maybe what I am looking for is what Swaro makes, I don't know.

My question is: How would folks compare the feeling of the views of these two binoculars? Everyone always talks about he 'Leica view", but what about the Swaro view? Is there such a thing?

There'll be the obvious differences in porro/roof and "modern"/From the 50's, and the huge flat field of the EL's will big a big one, but I guess I'm asking about the subjective view of the two.

Anyway, this has been quite rambling, but I figure this is s good a place as any to ramble about binoculars, and I think there will be some interesting opinions and experiences that could be offered.

Thank you all!
 
Hi SK,

There’s lots of information about each here on BF. And as each has fans and detractors, I'm sure that others will add their observations

For direct comparisons:
• Stephen B compares the two at: https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=251846

• Tobias Mennle has great love for the 8x30 Habicht (as do I)
His main review of the 8x30 Habicht is at: http://www.greatestbinoculars.com/a...vski/swarohabicht8x30w/swarohabicht8x30w.html
And in his 8x32 EL SV review he makes direct comparisons with the Habicht: http://www.greatestbinoculars.com/allpages/reviews/swarovski/swaroel8x32sv/swarovision8x32.html


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To help get the best from the Habicht, while recognising it’s limitations, I’ve written in some detail at: https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=376504
Both my comments and those of others may be of interest to you

And for additional information about the focuser, see my recent comments from post #9 on at: https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=388805


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For a history of the Habicht, see the chronology of the main changes from 1948 to date, which is in the first table in post #6 at: https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=387746

And for information on the various EL's see here: https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=377476


John
 
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Hi SK,

There’s lots of information about each here on BF. And as each has fans and detractors, I'm sure that others will add their observations

For direct comparisons:
• Stephen B compares the two at: https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=251846

- - - -
To help get the best from the Habicht, while recognising it’s limitations, I’ve written in some detail at: https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=376504
Both my comments and those of others may be of interest to you


And for information on the various EL's see here: https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=377476


John


Thank you John, you're post always have so much information, wonderful. I've already seen some of what you mention, and it was very helpful, but I had not seen the above links, especially the comparison that you mention first above. Though it seems to be a bit more geared to how well the Habicht performs, there is some great comparative info in there.

There certainly is a lot of information about each of these binoculars themselves, as they are both most likely fantastic, but I'm really curious about is comparisons of their qualities. I can certainly read the specs and get an idea of the difference in performance, but the quality of a binocular, the personality, is I guess what I'm talking about.

Thanks again John, I really appreciate your post.
 
Quick focusing 'for me' is critical. ....and the Habicht is just too slow. Nice set of bins though. My dad had them and when I was at the family house, I used them to bird the back yard. But it seems that 'slow to focus' is an issue that most porro's have. I must say though, you can still get them on Ebay for a fraction of a cost and they are very high quality. 95-96% light transmission....wow!!!.. I was just reading up on them and wasn't aware but I can see that.

Porro's in general, although a bit bulky to my liking, are really sharp. When I view even thru my old 99$ Bushnell porro's I am impressed. jim
 
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Quick focusing 'for me' is critical. ....and the Habicht is just too slow. Nice set of bins though. My dad had them and when I was at the family house, I used them to bird the back yard. But it seems that 'slow to focus' is an issue that most porro's have. I must say though, you can still get them on Ebay for a fraction of a cost and they are very high quality. 95-96% light transmission....wow!!!.. I was just reading up on them and wasn't aware but I can see that.

Porro's in general, although a bit bulky to my liking, are really sharp. When I view even thru my old 99$ Bushnell porro's I am impressed. jim


For sure. The Habicht's focus is certainly slower than even non waterproof porros, but it never really bothered me. I use them as much for general viewing as I do for bird watching, I just really like looking through binoculars. I will say though that I have missed some fast moving birds before because of the slow focus.
 
Here's my idea:

Before you actually BUY anything why don't you drive to a Cabela's nearest you. I bet they will have most of the current Swarovski models. Try them out. At the least try out the 32mm and 42mm Els and the 42mm SLC. Even if they don't have the magnification you are looking for it will still give you a good feel for the optics of each. I'm not going to say what I "think" you may like best!
 
Here's my idea:

Before you actually BUY anything why don't you drive to a Cabela's nearest you. I bet they will have most of the current Swarovski models. Try them out. At the least try out the 32mm and 42mm Els and the 42mm SLC. Even if they don't have the magnification you are looking for it will still give you a good feel for the optics of each. I'm not going to say what I "think" you may like best!

For sure Chuck, I would love to try them all out, but I'm not getting out much these days on purpose.

I don't mean to be asking which I would like best necessarily, I'm just curious to hear other's thoughts about the two and their similarities.
 
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