Hands on with new Mavens (1 Viewer)

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Perterra, post 40,
Now we have two completely opposite opinions from persons who actually used the Mavens (had them in their hands and before their eyes(Dennis and Steve) and we have the fact sheet from the WEB-site. Now if we can not trust the fact sheet than we have a problem, since 95% transmission generates a briljant bright image and that as yet is not confirmed here without any doubt.
Gijs van Ginkel

I will confirm the Maven B3 8x30 I tried was not nearly as bright as my Habicht 8x30 W which has a confirmed transmission of 95%. NO WAY!:smoke:

 

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Dennis, post 57,
The Leica Ultravid HD-plus 7x42 and 8x42 have SP prisms and HT glass and they both do not reach a light transmission of 90%, so it seems to be quite a challenge to getvery high values with SP prisms and in our spectrometer we did not catch one as yet.
Gijs van Ginkel

In my practical experience the brightest binoculars I have had have been porro's and I really think they are the only binocular outside of maybe the Zeiss HT that can achieve those kind of transmission numbers. The little Habicht 8x30 W I have now seems brighter than my SV 8x32 and the SV is a BRIGHT binocular.

 

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B I wonder if you could save money by eliminating Maven as the middleman and ordering direct from Kamakura? That little 8x32 MR3 does look nice. That is Kamakura's best binocular. They are even cheaper at the 2nd link.

http://www.gofoto.se/typ-av-kikare/fagelkikare-naturkikare/kamakura-8x32-mr3-wp

http://www.mattssonsfoto.se/kikare/...akt&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=prisjaktklick

 

[perterra]

Steve, your mailbox is full

 

[Steve C]

Steve, your mailbox is full

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Yes,

We forget times have changed or we think time began when we were born.

I took my Leupold 7x42 BX2 Cascade out to use for a while yesterday. I will carry it around in my car for a while. I paid $229.99 for it 4 years ago. It has a 389' FOV. It is much better than my Green Armored Leitz 7x42 Trinovid BN which I used for many years in the 1990s. The Leitz has a FOV of 420.' I find that I can live with 389' even though my binocular of choice is my Zeiss 7x42 Victory FL which has a FOV of 450.'

Bob

Ceasar

How are the edges on the Leupold 7x42 BX2 Cascade? Pretty sharp to the edge?

 

[james holdsworth]

Sig Sauer offers 9x45 and 11x45 binoculars with Abbe-Koenig prisms under their Zulu-9 line. No guarantee that these are the same Kama products sold through Maven, but the specs look similar.

http://www.sigoptics.com/product/zulu9/

Additionally, Styrka offers a 15x56 binocular with Abbe-Koenig prisms under their S-9 line. No idea who makes these. Looks like Abbe-Koenig is making a comeback, for those who are interested.

http://styrkastrong.com/products-binocularsS9

The Sig-Sauer Zulu 9 is speced to have both HiDef [sic] and HT glass. Abbe Koenig prisms, HT glass and a pretty cool exterior armouring, looks very interesting.

 

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The Sig-Sauer Zulu 9 is speced to have both HiDef [sic] and HT glass. Abbe Koenig prisms, HT glass and a pretty cool exterior armouring, looks very interesting.

Specifications and body look just like the Maven's. You can buy the 9x45's Sig-Sauer Zulu at Amazon.com for $956.00 with free shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/Sig-Sauer-Zulu9-Binocular-Graphite/dp/B00UZ8AI68

 

[WJC]

Specifications and body look just like the Maven's.

My MARLIN 336 is very pretty, although it fires WINCHESTER 30-30s and was made by REMINGTON. And, so it goes. :cat:

Bill

 

[cycleguy]

I believe those are referred to as Marlingtons... |;|

In the meantime I was handed down an Asahi Pentax 7x35 wide field 11 degrees model no. 567.... would you know anything about these: history, any good, value, and so on...?

CG

 

[chartwell99]

Specifications and body look just like the Maven's. You can buy the 9x45's Sig-Sauer Zulu at Amazon.com for $956.00 with free shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/Sig-Sauer-Zulu9-Binocular-Graphite/dp/B00UZ8AI68

But you can buy the the real deal, yup the Maven 9 x 45, the finest binocular I have ever owned or used for $1000. Ever tried to resolve product problems with Amazon years after purchase? What am I missing?

 

[perterra]

But you can buy the the real deal, yup the Maven 9 x 45, the finest binocular I have ever owned or used. Ever tried to resolve product problems with Amazon years after purchase? What am I missing?

Your not missing anything, that I promise

 

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But you can buy the the real deal, yup the Maven 9 x 45, the finest binocular I have ever owned or used. Ever tried to resolve product problems with Amazon years after purchase? What am I missing?

You wouldn't deal with Amazon.com. You would deal with Sig-Sauer. As far as "real deal" is concerned they are both made by Kamakura. Take your pick on the cosmetics.

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[WJC]

I believe those are referred to as Marlingtons... |;|

In the meantime I was handed down an Asahi Pentax 7x35 wide field 11 degrees model no. 567.... would you know anything about these: history, any good, value, and so on...?

CG

Boy, are you taxing this old head. Having an 11-degree field, I believe it was the small unit with the oversized prisms. I’m certain I’ve worked on more than one. Particulars, though, elude me. To me, it was just a job. In those days, I didn’t make a life out of binos; I just used them to put my kids through school. The Asahi’s of that era were structurally fine—except for those with the elongated focuser.

I was also less than pleased with the “Gold” coatings on the eyelenses. The resolution degraded pretty badly after about 8 degrees. However, other “Ultra-Wide Angle” binos did the same thing, including the US Navy’s much worshipped 6x42 Square D.

That’s about all I remember, except I would be pleased to own one. :cat:

Sorry,

Bill

 

[peatmoss]

Ceasar

How are the edges on the Leupold 7x42 BX2 Cascade? Pretty sharp to the edge?

Looks like Bearbasin still sells those, at least according to their website...

http://www.bearbasin.net/product_p/leu111736.htm

 

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Today Kamakura sells their own binoculars......

http://www.gofoto.se/typ-av-kikare/fagelkikare-naturkikare?subname=KAMAKURA

Here is a dedicated Kamakura site
http://www.kamakura.se/produkter.php

 

[ceasar]

Looks like Bearbasin still sells those, at least according to their website...

http://www.bearbasin.net/product_p/leu111736.htm

That is it and it is the same price. I will be surprised if Bear Basin has any. Leupold upgraded them to FMC after 2011 and renamed them "Hawthorne" I believe.

Bob

 

[ceasar]

Ceasar

How are the edges on the Leupold 7x42 BX2 Cascade? Pretty sharp to the edge?

Its FOV is stated to be 7.5º on the binocular which comes to 393'@1000yds. The edges are surprisingly good. At least, conservatively estimated; I would say it has an 85% sweet spot without much fade off to the edge. It shows some pincushion distortion on vertical edges.

I have compared it in some respects to my Leica 8x42 UV Black Line which has a 389' FV.

I compared the FOV on both by counting the shingles on the top of my neighbors roof which is about 50' away. They both showed 18 shingles. Pincushion distortion is about the same for each. I note that both of these binoculars have large and generous sweet spots. Today is bright and sunny so they both look good but the Leica is brighter on overcast days and has better color rendition.

Bob

 

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Its FOV is stated to be 7.5º on the binocular which comes to 393'@1000yds. The edges are surprisingly good. At least, conservatively estimated; I would say it has an 85% sweet spot without much fade off to the edge. It shows some pincushion distortion on vertical edges.

I have compared it in some respects to my Leica 8x42 UV Black Line which has a 389' FV.

I compared the FOV on both by counting the shingles on the top of my neighbors roof which is about 50' away. They both showed 18 shingles. Pincushion distortion is about the same for each. I note that both of these binoculars have large and generous sweet spots. Today is bright and sunny so they both look good but the Leica is brighter on overcast days and has better color rendition.

Bob

Usually a Leica will have excellent color rendition. Those Blackline's outside of a smaller FOV sound like pretty good binoculars and they are exceptionally small which is very nice. If you have a big sweet spot a 390 foot FOV wouldn't be too limiting.

 

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Here is a dedicated Kamakura site
http://www.kamakura.se/produkter.php

God! They make tons of different binoculars. Take your pick.