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Peter Kovalik

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Slovakia
Graeme Oatley, Robert E. Simmons, Jérôme Fuchs. A molecular phylogeny of the harriers (Circus, Accipitridae) indicate the role of long distance dispersal and migration in diversification. Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution, In Press, Accepted Manuscript, Available online 19 February 2015.

[Abstract]
 

Nutcracker

Stop Brexit!
Thanks! Can't even see thumbnails of those two figures in the abstract, how does the trick work?

Guess there's going to be some major dismembering of Accipiter soon, into at least 5 genera.
 
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MJB

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So, very close to the taxonomic treatment adopted in Ferguson-Lees & Christie 2001 (Raptors of the World).

Eastern Marsh Harrier now monotypic.

Northern Harrier sister taxon to Cinereous Harrier, these two being a sister group to Hen Harrier. Neat.
MJB
 

Ian Lewis

aka Gryllo
Europe
Nobody has discussed the paraphyly of the genus Accipiter revealed by this work. Was this an unexpected finding or has this been known about before?

Ian
 

Ian Lewis

aka Gryllo
Europe
Also isn't it surprising that Montague's is more closely related to the marsh harrier clade rather than the steppe harrier clade?

ian
 

gusasp

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Nobody has discussed the paraphyly of the genus Accipiter revealed by this work. Was this an unexpected finding or has this been known about before?

Ian

Ian, see discussion of this paper (amongst others) here.

New to me though is how way distant Crested Goshawk (A. trivirgatus) is from the others, even outside aquiline eagles!
 
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Richard Klim

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Oatley et al 2015 pdf

Graeme Oatley, Robert E. Simmons, Jérôme Fuchs. A molecular phylogeny of the harriers (Circus, Accipitridae) indicate the role of long distance dispersal and migration in diversification. Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution, In Press, Accepted Manuscript, Available online 19 February 2015. [Abstract]
Oatley et al 2015. Mol Phylogenet Evol 85: 150–160. [pdf]
 
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Peter Kovalik

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Slovakia
Graham J. Etherington and Jason A. Mobley. Molecular phylogeny, morphology and life-history comparisons within Circus cyaneus reveal the presence of two distinct evolutionary lineages. Avian Research20167:17
DOI: 10.1186/s40657-016-0052-3

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cwbirder

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Graham J. Etherington and Jason A. Mobley. Molecular phylogeny, morphology and life-history comparisons within Circus cyaneus reveal the presence of two distinct evolutionary lineages.

Interesting paper! I wonder if there will be another proposal to the AOU to split the two species. The data in this paper certainly argue for it and they do address some of the concerns from the last proposal, though the genetic sample sizes are still fairly small. For anyone wanting to read the comments from the 2015 harrier proposal, they are here:

http://checklist.aou.org/nacc/proposals/comments/2015_C_comments_web.html#2015-C-9
 

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