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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nadsab" data-source="post: 1727432" data-attributes="member: 83431">I forgot to say two things, when I shot the pics, it was very windy we were in the middle of the snow storm, and the hawk's feathers were blowing all over the place, it even looked like some of them were about to come off, so the hawk was really more plump than showing in the photo because of the puffed up feathers.  Also, we live in a tight sub division however our home and street is a border street, and we live on the edge of a large wooded area, maybe 30 or 40 acres at least.  We often see hawks circling overhead in the summer time.  I don't know for sure if we have any nesting hawks in the woods here but they sure do use it as a hunting ground.I also have a question, I got many good looks of the belly with the binoculars, and the belly seemed very very densly colored, it looked like medium brown streaked  pattern over white to me - much more brown than the white in between, but it was snowing and much darker outside than usual due to the storm, so I suppose it may have been dark orange-ish not brown, but I'm just not sure.  When I look in the Sibleys book though, they don't show the belly very well that is for both the Goshawk and the Coopers.  It seems that the drawings though would indicate that the Coopers Hawk coloring on the belly is less densely colored than the Goshawk (less dense with either the brown or orange that is, compared to the Goshawks brown).  Is this correct?Also there was a pretty clear strong patch of white feathers in the chin area under the beak on the neck.  Sibleys is not clear on this though for the two birds.Lastly, I love the Sibleys book, but can anyone reccomend to me a book with actual photographs, instead of drawings, which identify ALL North American birds?Unfortunately though, I just could not get a good enough look of his or her head, due to the snow the distance and the darkness and he was moving around so fast filling his belly.</blockquote>

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