Hawk ID, Toronto (1 Viewer)

[mordovarot]

Hi,

Seen today near Toronto, please help to id this fella.

 

[Deb Burhinus]

This is a buteo species - light morph Broad-winged Hawk

 

[mordovarot]

This is a buteo species - light morph Broad-winged Hawk

We, americans, call hawks all birds bigger then an american robin)))
Thank you!

 

[Deb Burhinus]

We, americans, call hawks all birds bigger then an american robin)))
Thank you!

and all birds bigger than hawks, ‘buzzards’ .

 

[Microtus]

Broad-winged Hawk.

 

[mordovarot]

Thanks. He was hunting like a true hawk. I mean accipiter.

 

[Deb Burhinus]

Has the fall migration of BwH over Toronto started yet?

Check it out !
https://www.highparknature.org/wiki/wiki.php?n=Birds.HawkHill

 

[mordovarot]

No, the id is correct, I mean the hunting behaviour of some buteo species are quite not buteo-like

 

[birdmeister]

Has the fall migration of BwH over Toronto started yet?

Check it out !
https://www.highparknature.org/wiki/wiki.php?n=Birds.HawkHill

No doubt it's at least started, since hawk watches in Pennsylvania and New Jersey are beginning to tally 50+ birds (including Broadwings). Peak won't be until second week of September up there, and it's over quickly!

 

[gerdwichers8]

No, the id is correct, I mean the hunting behaviour of some buteo species are quite not buteo-like

I understand mister Vieillot treated this species under the genus 'sparvius', of which nowadays at least-mostly-all are placed in 'accipiter'.
This short-winged buzzard has no broad wing really but could you say the species is capable of catching small birds like the members of its former genus do?

..or had Vieillot simply placed it ambiguous rather because he couldn't make up his mind whether this species belongs to the short-winged or broad-winged hawks? (Sparrowhawks vs Buzzards)
He followed Linnaeus in classifying Buteo's e.g. Buteo brachyurus.. (buteo has the same meaning as platypterus does)

 

[njlarsen]

I understand mister Vieillot treated this species under the genus 'sparvius', of which nowadays at least-mostly-all are placed in 'accipiter'.
This short-winged buzzard has no broad wing really but could you say the species is capable of catching small birds like the members of its former genus do?

..or had Vieillot simply placed it ambiguous rather because he couldn't make up his mind whether this species belongs to the short-winged or broad-winged hawks? (Sparrowhawks vs Buzzards)
He followed Linnaeus in classifying Buteo's e.g. Buteo brachyurus.. (buteo has the same meaning as platypterus does)

I am pretty sure I read some time back about Broad-winged H that this is the buteo that thinks it is an accipiter.

Niels

 

[Deb Burhinus]

Thanks. He was hunting like a true hawk. I mean accipiter.

Typically they hunt from a perch (stealth and pounce) so a mix of buteo and accipter perhaps? I have never heard of BwH catching birds in the air. To me with their full shaped short tail and broad winged appearance, they still look very much the buteo. It’s the narrow/pointed hand and proportionately short wings that is more at odds with buteo but I would still recognise it as buteo rather than accipiter without being familiar with the species.