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<blockquote data-quote="Björn Bergenholtz" data-source="post: 3404725" data-attributes="member: 113430"><p>● Eastern Parotia <em>Parotia helenae</em> DE VIZ 1897 (<a href="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/54800#page/448/mode/1up" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>) a k a "Helena's Parotia" or "Helena's Six-wired Bird-of-Paradise". </p><p></p><p>However; no dedication, nor any out-spoken explanation.</p><p></p><p>I don´t know the basis for either claim (it´s not an Eponym on my list), but The Author Charles Walter de Vis (1829-1915) was English and it could surely have been aimed at the mentioned Princess (but I doubt it, as commemoration intended for Royals almost always are both long, lingering and cringing) and what the other Helena (whoever she is?) "Helena Ford<strong><span style="color: Blue"><u>e</u></span></strong>, (d. 1910) daughter of the Australian oologist Dr. A. Scott" (<span style="color: blue">in both </span>2010 and the <em>HBW ALIVE Key</em> 2016, <a href="http://www.hbw.com/dictionary/key-to-scientific-names-in-ornithology?name=helenae&=Apply" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>) could have to do with this bird .. I simply don´t know?</p><p></p><p>By the way: "The Scott sisters"; Helena Scott (later Mrs Forde, 1832–1910) [most likely James's Helena, or?] and her older sister Harriet Scott (later Mrs Morgan, 1830–1907) were both fairly skilled Bird illustrators. Their Father was Alexander Walker Scott (1800–1883), cattle rancher and a fairly well-known entomologist. If also an "oologist" is unknown to me (his father was a "Dr.", physician).</p><p></p><p>The only reason (in my mind) that this bird would commemorate Mrs Forbe is that she made the Plate, but there´s apparently no such thing in the OD!?</p><p></p><p>I would start to look for a relative (Wife) of the Italian Mr. Giulianetti (the collector himself, who collected the Type in New Guinea, in 1896). Or for a relative (wife, daughter?) of de Viz.</p><p></p><p>Good luck finding her!</p><p><span style="color: White">---</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Björn Bergenholtz, post: 3404725, member: 113430"] ● Eastern Parotia [I]Parotia helenae[/I] DE VIZ 1897 ([URL="http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/54800#page/448/mode/1up"][U]here[/U][/URL]) a k a "Helena's Parotia" or "Helena's Six-wired Bird-of-Paradise". However; no dedication, nor any out-spoken explanation. I don´t know the basis for either claim (it´s not an Eponym on my list), but The Author Charles Walter de Vis (1829-1915) was English and it could surely have been aimed at the mentioned Princess (but I doubt it, as commemoration intended for Royals almost always are both long, lingering and cringing) and what the other Helena (whoever she is?) "Helena Ford[B][COLOR="Blue"][U]e[/U][/COLOR][/B], (d. 1910) daughter of the Australian oologist Dr. A. Scott" ([COLOR="blue"]in both [/COLOR]2010 and the [I]HBW ALIVE Key[/I] 2016, [URL="http://www.hbw.com/dictionary/key-to-scientific-names-in-ornithology?name=helenae&=Apply"][U]here[/U][/URL]) could have to do with this bird .. I simply don´t know? By the way: "The Scott sisters"; Helena Scott (later Mrs Forde, 1832–1910) [most likely James's Helena, or?] and her older sister Harriet Scott (later Mrs Morgan, 1830–1907) were both fairly skilled Bird illustrators. Their Father was Alexander Walker Scott (1800–1883), cattle rancher and a fairly well-known entomologist. If also an "oologist" is unknown to me (his father was a "Dr.", physician). The only reason (in my mind) that this bird would commemorate Mrs Forbe is that she made the Plate, but there´s apparently no such thing in the OD!? I would start to look for a relative (Wife) of the Italian Mr. Giulianetti (the collector himself, who collected the Type in New Guinea, in 1896). Or for a relative (wife, daughter?) of de Viz. Good luck finding her! [COLOR="White"]---[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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