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<blockquote data-quote="Taphrospilus" data-source="post: 3409670" data-attributes="member: 121912"><p>At the time of post I speculated Saint Helena was dedicated for Helena Augusta Victoria. But I agree I see no connection between both Helenas and I see no real connection to the princess.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct as to read <a href="https://archive.org/stream/MemoirsQueensla00Quee#page/315/mode/1up" target="_blank">here</a>. The whole article excludes as well his mother Mary Devis <a href="https://archive.org/stream/MemoirsQueensla00Quee#page/313/mode/1up" target="_blank">here</a>. His name in England was written in one word as <u><em>Devis</em></u> and he changed later to <em><u>de Vis</u></em> <a href="https://archive.org/stream/MemoirsQueensla00Quee#page/314/mode/1up" target="_blank">here</a>. Maybe from the name change explanation we may build an affinity to the British crown. </p><p></p><p>Just an additional guess:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://search.ancestry.com.au/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=ChY1&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&gl=BMD_DEATH&MS_AdvCB=1&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=2&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn_x=1&gsln=Vis&gsln_x=1&msbdy_x=1&msbpn_x=XO&msbpn__ftp_x=1&msrpn_x=XO&msrpn__ftp_x=1&msydy_x=1&msypn_x=XO&msypn__ftp_x=1&gskw_x=1&cpxt=0&uidh=000&cp=0&so=2" target="_blank">Here</a> is <em><u>Helen Ludlow De Vis</u></em> mentioned, died 1897 in Australia the year of the description of <em><u>Parotia helenae</u></em>. Who she is I do not have a clue and if there is a relationship to de Vis is based on speculation? Maybe a stepdaughter of the second marriage with the widow Katherine Elizabeth Luck<strong><u>i</u></strong>e (think a typo from Bjön Luck<strong><u>l</u></strong>e? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />) But as I said I do not have facts and no access to more details on the ancestry web page.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Taphrospilus, post: 3409670, member: 121912"] At the time of post I speculated Saint Helena was dedicated for Helena Augusta Victoria. But I agree I see no connection between both Helenas and I see no real connection to the princess. Correct as to read [URL="https://archive.org/stream/MemoirsQueensla00Quee#page/315/mode/1up"]here[/URL]. The whole article excludes as well his mother Mary Devis [URL="https://archive.org/stream/MemoirsQueensla00Quee#page/313/mode/1up"]here[/URL]. His name in England was written in one word as [U][I]Devis[/I][/U] and he changed later to [I][U]de Vis[/U][/I] [URL="https://archive.org/stream/MemoirsQueensla00Quee#page/314/mode/1up"]here[/URL]. Maybe from the name change explanation we may build an affinity to the British crown. Just an additional guess: [URL="http://search.ancestry.com.au/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=ChY1&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&gl=BMD_DEATH&MS_AdvCB=1&rank=1&new=1&MSAV=2&msT=1&gss=angs-g&gsfn_x=1&gsln=Vis&gsln_x=1&msbdy_x=1&msbpn_x=XO&msbpn__ftp_x=1&msrpn_x=XO&msrpn__ftp_x=1&msydy_x=1&msypn_x=XO&msypn__ftp_x=1&gskw_x=1&cpxt=0&uidh=000&cp=0&so=2"]Here[/URL] is [I][U]Helen Ludlow De Vis[/U][/I] mentioned, died 1897 in Australia the year of the description of [I][U]Parotia helenae[/U][/I]. Who she is I do not have a clue and if there is a relationship to de Vis is based on speculation? Maybe a stepdaughter of the second marriage with the widow Katherine Elizabeth Luck[B][U]i[/U][/B]e (think a typo from Bjön Luck[B][U]l[/U][/B]e? ;)) But as I said I do not have facts and no access to more details on the ancestry web page. [/QUOTE]
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