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<blockquote data-quote="PScofield" data-source="post: 4148705" data-attributes="member: 128262"><p>Two issues here:</p><p></p><p>1) It was Rothschild's opinion that the holotype skin was NOT collected by MacGregor nor by Giulianetti but by A.S. Anthony (<strong>Alearce Savery Anthony</strong> a Mauritian or Maltese planter and collector in New Gunea d. 1920). Given his heritage, Rothschild was very keen to ensure that the true "workers" got the credit.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/15771151#page/87/mode/1up[/URL]</p><p></p><p>This opinion is backup by this paper</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/19267472#page/20/mode/1up[/URL]</p><p></p><p>A.S. Anthony is very interesting. See here (on pg 38):</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://pacificinstitute.anu.edu.au/sites/default/files/resources-links/JPH_Plantation_Dream.pdf[/URL]</p><p></p><p>"At the time of his death, Anthony claimed Malta as his birthplace. (Papuan Courier, 24 Sept. 1920) He was also believed to have been 'MacGregor's taxidermist'.""</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1369615[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>2) The tallest mountains of the Owen Stanley range were named after the British Royal Family <u>by MacGregor</u> who was obviously a rabid royalist. The eastern extremity of the range is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Victoria,_Papua_New_Guinea" target="_blank">Mount Victoria</a>, and the mountain beside Mt Scratchley is Mount<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Albert_Edward,_Papua_New_Guinea" target="_blank"> Albert Edward</a>. It makes perfect sense to me that a bird collected by the party would be named after Victoria's daughter <strong>Helena Augusta Victoria Saxe-Coburg Gotha (1846-1923)</strong>.</p><p></p><p>P</p><p></p><p>Note:</p><p></p><p>Although a royalist McGregor was not racist (by the standards of the day) as can been seen here (especially last paragraph):</p><p></p><p><a href="https://doi-org.ezproxy.canterbury.ac.nz/10.2307/1801475" target="_blank">https://doi-org/10.2307/1801475</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PScofield, post: 4148705, member: 128262"] Two issues here: 1) It was Rothschild's opinion that the holotype skin was NOT collected by MacGregor nor by Giulianetti but by A.S. Anthony ([B]Alearce Savery Anthony[/B] a Mauritian or Maltese planter and collector in New Gunea d. 1920). Given his heritage, Rothschild was very keen to ensure that the true "workers" got the credit. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/15771151#page/87/mode/1up[/URL] This opinion is backup by this paper [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/19267472#page/20/mode/1up[/URL] A.S. Anthony is very interesting. See here (on pg 38): [URL unfurl="true"]https://pacificinstitute.anu.edu.au/sites/default/files/resources-links/JPH_Plantation_Dream.pdf[/URL] "At the time of his death, Anthony claimed Malta as his birthplace. (Papuan Courier, 24 Sept. 1920) He was also believed to have been 'MacGregor's taxidermist'."" [ATTACH type="full" alt="1613350065617.png"]1369615[/ATTACH] 2) The tallest mountains of the Owen Stanley range were named after the British Royal Family [U]by MacGregor[/U] who was obviously a rabid royalist. The eastern extremity of the range is [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Victoria,_Papua_New_Guinea']Mount Victoria[/URL], and the mountain beside Mt Scratchley is Mount[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Albert_Edward,_Papua_New_Guinea'] Albert Edward[/URL]. It makes perfect sense to me that a bird collected by the party would be named after Victoria's daughter [B]Helena Augusta Victoria Saxe-Coburg Gotha (1846-1923)[/B]. P Note: Although a royalist McGregor was not racist (by the standards of the day) as can been seen here (especially last paragraph): [URL='https://doi-org.ezproxy.canterbury.ac.nz/10.2307/1801475']https://doi-org/10.2307/1801475[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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