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Hello everyone! Night call, Spain (1 Viewer)

Just a remark on both species status at Spain. Eurasian Pygmy Owl was surprisingly detected in the Spanish Pyrenees in 2021, and is believed to be breeding there (one-a few couples). Regarding Scops Owl, although the peak is still to come, some arrive in Spain even in January (and Almería is within the first areas reached) It is also known to winter at some places, even in the North and not close to the sea (Pamplona town, for instance). Anyway, I don't think the description given could fit the call or song of this species.
I remember the 2021 Pyrenees record, but in the context of this post it didn't seem worth mentioning. I appreciate that there is no real black and white dividing line as to when inward/outward migration of any species starts or stops, which is why I was vague on that. Genuine question; Do these wintering Scops call all year, or is it a breeding season habit?
 
I remember the 2021 Pyrenees record, but in the context of this post it didn't seem worth mentioning. I appreciate that there is no real black and white dividing line as to when inward/outward migration of any species starts or stops, which is why I was vague on that. Genuine question; Do these wintering Scops call all year, or is it a breeding season habit?
I don't have direct experience as in my area we haven't detected them yet. They call for sure, it is not well known yet the frequency of calls compared to spring & summer. Here you have some samples: Winter Scops Spain , check the ones from Pamplona or Santander, as the mediterranean ones could be early arrivals. Within Pamplona town and surroundings they have started to follow this wintering population last year, with the same methodology as their regular spring census (mostly sound contacts, as usual with this species). First census was carried at the beginning of january 2024 and they reported 21 individuals in 94 km total transects (estimated IKA roughly 6 times less than in spring). It is quite a decent number
 
I don't know how to upload sound files to this thread! So sorry! Ooh,just had a thought....bear with me!

Nope! Don't know how to send via the Merlin app?? Help!!
It is not easy, mainly because of Merlin structure. You cannot do it directly from the app. First, you have to find the file in your phone, then upload it to Birdforum. Sound are recorded in Merlin as *.wav files, named as follows: yyyy-mm-dd hh_mm.wav They are usually placed in a folder called "Merlin" within "Music" folder in your mobile phone (that is for Android, in Iphone could be a little different ). There are some ways to find it, the best if you have a few files is directly searching for the day/month/ . If you have some in the same day then you coud check in MerlinID (pressing "My sound recordings") the one of your interest. Once located and saved conveniently, uploading it to Birdforum is easy. Just hit the "Attach files" that appears in the left lower hand when you are typing any message and follow the menu. *.wav files are allowed if they are not very heavy.
 
I would like to clarify my request: the call is only heard in the 'first Spring' in Almeria (we have two, each year, for those who are unaware!).
I'm trying very hard to catch and record its call.
I'm using Birdnet. Deleted the Merlin app, blooming hopeless IMO!
Anyway, bear with and I'll get a recording.
Convinced it's a Northern Scops Owl; the calls are not fast; very regular, but maybe only 10 in 60 seconds....
 
Got it, finally!! A Eurasion Scops Owl!!
So happy, I could wee meself! Sorry, if that offends anyone, but my goodness, it's taken months to get this right!
Thank you all for your instructions and information/advice!
I'm a very happy Lady! Julie xx
 
Hi, worth mentioning that Iberian Midwife Toad can sound deceptively similar to Scops Owl in Spain. XC972997 Iberian Midwife Toad (Alytes cisternasii)

EDIT: and they call at this time of year 🥲
The sound approach has a good article on this: Eurasian Scops Owl - The Sound Approach. Things to look out for with Midwife toads is a lack of modulation in the call (it's completely flat)

Dare I say that only 10 per 60 seconds would be more likely for a toad than a Scops Owl, in most recordings of Scops Owls, notes are separated by only about 3 seconds.

EDIT: I'm also not confident that AI can separate them as of yet. I had BirdNET think a dog was a Little Owl the other day
 
I accept your argument, but reject it, nevertheless. Because I now realise it repeats about every 3 seconds! Sorry for the misdirection, but I'm new to this reporting lark (pun, completely intended!!).
Forgive my flippancy; I've just had ½ glass of wine! Jx
 
Oh, and the problem with Birdnet is that it hears everything and more often than not, the analysis is either Canine or Human!
We live in a mountainous farming area: dogs everywhere!
Very annoying, but shouldn't complain, as we have two noisy ones, ourselves! One is the alarm and the larger one, the guardian!
 
We are experiencing an extremely warm winter this year and only the nights are chilly. It's the warmest we've had since we moved here 6 years ago. Perhaps that's why it's arrived early? I will, however, listen to the sound of the toad!
 
This thread has meandered a little :) but did you finally get a recording for us to hear?

Rather than go through an app you could always simply record a video using your phone's camera.

It doesn't matter about the video itself, i.e it doesn't have to visually be of the bird/animal as long as its pointed towards the sound, and the audio on most phones when recording a video can be better quality than the phone's own built-in audio recorder - and it's fairly easy to upload a video to this forum or YouTube also.
 
Why on earth didn't I think of that?? I will try this evening!
One thing I have to say, though, is that having listened to the toad, the Scops and Eagle owl, it's definitely NOT the toad as the call is too high-pitched!
 
Why on earth didn't I think of that?? I will try this evening!
One thing I have to say, though, is that having listened to the toad, the Scops and Eagle owl, it's definitely NOT the toad as the call is too high-pitched!
Hi, toad call frequency changes a lot with body size. There is certainly overlap in frequency (pitch) between Iberian Midwife Toad and Scops Owl. The only consistent way to discern them is the modulation. Eagle Owl should sound nothing like either, it's a prolonged booming sound. A recording would clear things up immediately
 

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