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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CMB" data-source="post: 1199946" data-attributes="member: 64853">I have had both the Leica Trinovid 10x25 BCA, and the Zeiss ClassiC 10x25 BT.  I know you mentioned the Zeiss Victory, but the new Zeiss Conquest BT (the old Zeiss ClassiC) are still within your price range and would give you a waterproof set of bins.I don't own anything larger so I can't compare them to top quality medium and full size bins made today.  That's how much I like them!  At the time I purchased them they provided a much better image than the medium and full sized bins in the same price range.I find both to be plenty bright, and haven't found the narrower field of view provided by compacts to be a problem.The biggest limitation I have found is the close focus distance.  Both my bins close focus around 15 feet, and there are a number of times I wish they focused closer.I like the twist-up eye cups on the Leica's better than the rubber eye-cups on the Zeiss, and find the Leica eye cups to be more comfortable against the face.  My wife wears glasses and she finds the Zeiss more comfortable when wearing glasses.Personally I love the double hinge design of both bins as opposed to a single center hinge as found on the Victory compacts.  The double hinge design seems to allow me to get a better fit.While both bins provide good images, but they are different types of images.  The only way I can think to describe it would be to say that to me the Leica's have a flatter image, while the Zeiss seem to have a very slight curvature to them.Good luck.</blockquote>

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