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Help with Redpoll ID (1 Viewer)

trader81

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Canada
Hi there,

I was wondering if I could get some input into these redpolls species. Pictures taken today in Toronto, Ontario. Links to dropbox below as the files were to large to post directly.

Redpoll #1 - The bill looks stubby to be me, and overall was a brighter white than other redpolls in the area with fainter streaking, made me think it is possible it was a Hoary but I am not confident.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n1ue89vvt5rssc0/AADn8ZMSwFpx_nZ0-VEjdfbLa?dl=0

Redpoll #2 - This bird was definitely whiter than the other redpolls but perhaps it was just the lighting, but the bill looks to large to be a Hoary in my amateur opinion.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zcrd5dp4eg2j7v3/AAAzahZ8Va011ctRT0hY5P_Pa?dl=0

Just thought I would ask the community as a learning experience. People have been reporting Hoary in the area but I have not been able to nail down the ID as of yet.

Thanks for any advice
 

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