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Help with this ID from South Africa (West Coast National Park) (seen last august) (1 Viewer)

arodris

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Hi,

I need help with this bird I saw last August 19th, 2024, at the West Coast National Park, in South Africa. I guess that it is some type of lark. According to the list of birds of this parks (can be found in the web page of the park, at https://www.sanparks.org/parks/west-coast/explore/fauna-flora/birds), only 5 larks are present there: Cape Clapper Lark, Cape Long-billed Lark, Karoo Lark, Red-capped Lark and Large-billed Lark). In my opinion, red-capped, clapper and long-billed larks can be excluded. So the thing should go between Karoo and Large-billed, but not sure on the correct ID.

Thanks
 

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Suggest Karoo. I think Large-billed has a larger bill with a straight lower mandible and curved culmen whereas here the whole bill seems curved. Most Large-billed have a yellowish patch at the base of the lower mandible (again not here)
 
Coming back with the south african larks, what do you think about this other bird. It was seen near the Tankwa Karoo National Park, at Eierkop, last August 21st. I think that this is a Large-billed lark, but I would appreciate confirmation.
Thanks
 

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Again some doubts more, in this case from Eierkop, at the road R355, near the Tankwa Karoo NP. This time the birds were seen on August 21th.
In my opinion they are:
1. Large-billed lark
2. Karoo lark
3. Large-billed lark
4. Large-billed lark (in all these three individuals I see the a straight lower mandible and curved culmen commented by @THE_FERN
5. Trac-trac chat
6. Karoo chat
7. Karoo chat.
Can anybody confirm me these IDs?
Thanks
 

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Again some doubts more, in this case from Eierkop, at the road R355, near the Tankwa Karoo NP. This time the birds were seen on August 21th.
In my opinion they are:
1. Large-billed lark
2. Karoo lark
3. Large-billed lark
4. Large-billed lark (in all these three individuals I see the a straight lower mandible and curved culmen commented by @THE_FERN
5. Trac-trac chat
6. Karoo chat
7. Karoo chat.
Can anybody confirm me these IDs?
Thanks
Sorry, seem that there was a mistake in the numbers. The corrects are:
1. Karoo chat
2. Trac-trac chat
3. Large-billed lark
4. Large-billed lark
5. Karoo lark
6. Large-billed lark (in all these three individuals I see the a straight lower mandible and curved culmen commented by @THE_FERN
7. Karoo chat.
 

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