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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Craig H" data-source="post: 3214091" data-attributes="member: 30046">And also re Saluki's post.I dont necessarily disagree that Langholm is wonderful. But, if its such a success why is it left to the 'conservationists' to drive it forward. Why don't the grouse shooting fraternity if they are so bothered about the wellbeing of the HH? I come back to my main point. Shooting Harriers is illegal. We shouldn't need any plans, strategies, partnerships or otherwise. Quite simply stop shooting them. I have, in the past played a bit of devils advocate on here - defending (almost) people who shoot. But this has now gone beyond a joke. Sod the plans etc and just find the idiots and lock em up. If the grouse moor keepers want to sell the benefits of Langholm or wherever else great - let them fund it and promote it. But as a law abiding citizen I expect/ demand that this criminal activity is stopped and if that means taking down an entire (yet relatively minor) industry then so be it.</blockquote>