I would agree that the 85 mm is enough scope for most applications. With the 95 mm I find that I often have too much magnification and wish I could go wider.
Neil.
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I would agree that the 85 mm is enough scope for most applications. With the 95 mm I find that I often have too much magnification and wish I could go wider.
Neil.
proudpapa56
Where'd you go, stay put!
If there are some bigger birds at our backyard feeder, I can't get the whole bird into view with the 95mm at its lowest 30x.
salty
geordie birder
Either one would suit you well......maybe the 85 slightly better if your biking about.
Personally I rarely go above the lowest x30 setting on my 95 as it's enough for the garden and close up work, detail and brightens takes your breath away....and even for long distance raptor and plane spotting.
I take all my iPhone scoping pics at x30 too....and only use the higher mags to bring out detail when watching stationary objects.
Personally I rarely go above the lowest x30 setting on my 95 as it's enough for the garden and close up work, detail and brightens takes your breath away....and even for long distance raptor and plane spotting.
I take all my iPhone scoping pics at x30 too....and only use the higher mags to bring out detail when watching stationary objects.
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Mathias,
What kind of viewing do you do and what eyepiece/s do you use with the ED 82 A? Myself, I have moved up from the ED 82 A to the ATX 95, which I see as a worthwhile upgrade, but would not have changed scopes to the ATX if the 85 would have been the largest option. The ATX 85 has significantly wider fields of view than the ED 82 A with its zoom, but does not reach equally high magnifications and (assuming good samples of each) offers only very marginally better image quality. The raw theoretical resolution of an 85 mm objective is about 3.6% better than with an 82 mm, but the Nikon's higher magnifications with the zoom more than compensate for this.
For what it is worth, I carry my ATX 95 on my back while biking, using a Cley Spy tripod harness, and I have a heavy tripod too.
Kimmo
What kind of viewing do you do and what eyepiece/s do you use with the ED 82 A? Myself, I have moved up from the ED 82 A to the ATX 95, which I see as a worthwhile upgrade, but would not have changed scopes to the ATX if the 85 would have been the largest option. The ATX 85 has significantly wider fields of view than the ED 82 A with its zoom, but does not reach equally high magnifications and (assuming good samples of each) offers only very marginally better image quality. The raw theoretical resolution of an 85 mm objective is about 3.6% better than with an 82 mm, but the Nikon's higher magnifications with the zoom more than compensate for this.
For what it is worth, I carry my ATX 95 on my back while biking, using a Cley Spy tripod harness, and I have a heavy tripod too.
Kimmo
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Kimmo, try cycling with your rig around cornwall. After climbing three or four 25 per centers the best place for your rig would be in the ditch!!
Still horses for courses and all that.
I have had the nikon ed82 with zoom and while its a great scope I still feel the swarovski 85mm is worth the cost just for the wide ,much, wider view.
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salty
geordie birder
http://uk.swarovskioptik.com/nature/atx-stx-c210201/atx-25-60x65-t5006351-B1
Only 160 gram difference between the 85 & 95 that's not bad :t:
Only 160 gram difference between the 85 & 95 that's not bad :t:
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Salty,
I was thinking more of the combo, heavy tripod and all.
No getting away from the fact that the 95mm is a great choice.
Got a pal that owns an optics shop here in Cornwall and he says the 95mm sells the most and quite often they buy the 65mm objective with it.
By the time you have bought that lot plus the cases plus the camera attachments you had better be serious about the hobby!!
One of the reasons I purchased the 85mm instead of the 95mm was the cost I got mine for £1,999. If I need the extra reach I will walk a few yards closer and if I cannot, bugger it I will look at something else.
Anyway I trust your still enjoying yours!?
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I was thinking more of the combo, heavy tripod and all.
No getting away from the fact that the 95mm is a great choice.
Got a pal that owns an optics shop here in Cornwall and he says the 95mm sells the most and quite often they buy the 65mm objective with it.
By the time you have bought that lot plus the cases plus the camera attachments you had better be serious about the hobby!!
One of the reasons I purchased the 85mm instead of the 95mm was the cost I got mine for £1,999. If I need the extra reach I will walk a few yards closer and if I cannot, bugger it I will look at something else.
Anyway I trust your still enjoying yours!?
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salty
geordie birder
Yeah that's good thinking, I use a cheaper normal tripod rather than a carbon fibre job...only because I only walk from the car to the hides.....I usually just plonk it down and start scanning.
Love mine, use it every day, even at home, I set it up each day and leave it out near window all day and night....can't wait for long warm days out.
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Ha! It was a one off.
Jason Bugay Reyes
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I agree with Kimmo to go with the 95mm. I had ED82 and EDG85. Then now using the STX 95mm. Big differences I see with 95mm!
SUPPRESSOR
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Bit late to the party, he could be two scopes down the line by now.
Well maybe not,not all like me!!
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I always went for the bigger is better method when it comes to optics....went from 77mm leica to 85mm Zeiss to 95mm swarovski and I can't complain or wish to have anything smaller.
I don't think it's large or heavy, though I won't be carrying it on my body all day o
Salty,
When you have a moment google BIRDCHICK. Click on the video with the title (what to expect when you're married to a birder) then you will understand why I had to go for the 85mm!!!
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Binoseeker
Mostly using spectacles (myopic) with binoculars.
Another way to clean your optics...
http://www.birdchick.com/wp/2013/03/what-to-expect-when-youre-married-to-a-birder/
http://www.birdchick.com/wp/2013/03/what-to-expect-when-youre-married-to-a-birder/
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Indeed!
Jason Bugay Reyes
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Whitehead's Trogon
Endemic to the mountains in Borneo and one of the target birds for visiting birdwatchers :king: Digiscoped with Swarovski STX 95 + TLS APO + Nikon V1, ISO 800, 1/15's ~ At 30x = 2430mm
Endemic to the mountains in Borneo and one of the target birds for visiting birdwatchers :king: Digiscoped with Swarovski STX 95 + TLS APO + Nikon V1, ISO 800, 1/15's ~ At 30x = 2430mm
