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<blockquote data-quote="CAU" data-source="post: 1292000" data-attributes="member: 55324"><p>I completely agree that the bird in the second picture looks like a Booted Warbler. I have some issues with the first picture, such as the lack of a dark edge above the supercilium (which is present in the second pic), the apparent white tips on the tertials and the very pale toes (they look quite pale in the second picture, too, but maybe not as pale). The bill does look quite thickly based in the first pic, but it's difficult to rule whether it fits better Booted or Garden, as it looks a bit wrong for both species (probably caused by the blurriness). The thing that I initially thought could be the primary projection is probably a leaf. I initially even considered whether the two pictures could show two different birds, but maybe they don't, they look after all quite similar.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree that based on your personal observations you are entitled to rule out Garden Warbler, but what about the other Hippolais warblers?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Surely you must have seen some concrete features to support this, especially if it was dipping the tail like an Olivaceous Warbler? Did it have a strong dark edge above the supercilium, like the second picture suggests? Did it have darker toes, i.e. boots (shouldn't this be an obvious feature to check from the name of the bird)? Did the lower mandible have a dark tip, and if it did, what did it look like?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm afraid that separating these two species is a bit more difficult than this.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A Paddyfield Warbler should also have a longer tail (and probably the tip would look more rounded).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually on Hippolais warblers the only edges of the outer tail feathers are white (although sometimes they may completely lack the white edges, possibly due to wear).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CAU, post: 1292000, member: 55324"] I completely agree that the bird in the second picture looks like a Booted Warbler. I have some issues with the first picture, such as the lack of a dark edge above the supercilium (which is present in the second pic), the apparent white tips on the tertials and the very pale toes (they look quite pale in the second picture, too, but maybe not as pale). The bill does look quite thickly based in the first pic, but it's difficult to rule whether it fits better Booted or Garden, as it looks a bit wrong for both species (probably caused by the blurriness). The thing that I initially thought could be the primary projection is probably a leaf. I initially even considered whether the two pictures could show two different birds, but maybe they don't, they look after all quite similar. I agree that based on your personal observations you are entitled to rule out Garden Warbler, but what about the other Hippolais warblers? Surely you must have seen some concrete features to support this, especially if it was dipping the tail like an Olivaceous Warbler? Did it have a strong dark edge above the supercilium, like the second picture suggests? Did it have darker toes, i.e. boots (shouldn't this be an obvious feature to check from the name of the bird)? Did the lower mandible have a dark tip, and if it did, what did it look like? I'm afraid that separating these two species is a bit more difficult than this. A Paddyfield Warbler should also have a longer tail (and probably the tip would look more rounded). Actually on Hippolais warblers the only edges of the outer tail feathers are white (although sometimes they may completely lack the white edges, possibly due to wear). [/QUOTE]
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