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Ian Lewis

aka Gryllo
Europe
Identification, taxonomy and distribution of Western, Siberian and Asian House Martins: Paul Leader, Geoff Carey & Manuel Schweizer.
British Birds 111 February 2021 p 72-96

Makes the case for 'Siberian' House Martin Delichon (urbicum) lagapodum to be treated as a full species

Ian
 

Jim LeNomenclatoriste

Taxonomy and zoological nomenclature
France
Identification, taxonomy and distribution of Western, Siberian and Asian House Martins: Paul Leader, Geoff Carey & Manuel Schweizer.
British Birds 111 February 2021 p 72-96

Makes the case for 'Siberian' House Martin Delichon (urbicum) lagapodum to be treated as a full species

Ian
This subspecies is already treated as full species by HBW as Eastern House Martin
 

MJB

Well-known member
Identification, taxonomy and distribution of Western, Siberian and Asian House Martins: Paul Leader, Geoff Carey & Manuel Schweizer.
British Birds 111 February 2021 p 72-96

Makes the case for 'Siberian' House Martin Delichon (urbicum) lagapodum to be treated as a full species

Ian
I've never known a longer month, let alone February...! Will winter never end...?
MJB
 

Paul Leader

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Abstract The identification, taxonomy and distribution of the three Delichon taxa that breed in the northern Palearctic is reviewed. In Europe, the House Martin D. urbicum is a widespread and familiar breeding bird, while claims of the eastern ‘Siberian House Martin’ D. (u.) lagopodum and Asian House Martin D. dasypus in the Western Palearctic have generated increasing debate. In adult plumage, there are consistent differences between the three taxa, most notably in the size of the rump-patch, and these plumage differences are broadly replicated in juvenile plumage. There are consistent structural differences between the three and also differences in vocalisations. The sympatric breeding of urbicum and lagopodum in an area of the Russian Federation, where dasypus also breeds nearby but at higher altitudes, and of dasypus and lagopodum in another part of the Russian Federation, implies that effective reproductive isolating mechanisms exist. Consequently, Western House Martin, Siberian House Martin and Asian House Martin should be treated as three separate species under any species concept. This is consistent with the deep genetic difference between urbicum and dasypus.

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Peter Kovalik

Well-known member
Slovakia
Identification, taxonomy and distribution of Western, Siberian and Asian House Martins: Paul Leader, Geoff Carey & Manuel Schweizer.
British Birds 111 February 2021 p 72-96

Makes the case for 'Siberian' House Martin Delichon (urbicum) lagapodum to be treated as a full species

Ian
IOC Updates Diary Feb 2

Post proposed split of Siberian House Martin from Common House Martin.
 

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