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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Canuck Bob" data-source="post: 3536958" data-attributes="member: 140655">Thanks to everyone.  I've been playing with my primary new bins, 8X EII and 7X Nav Pro.  As far as my eyes show to me the little Steiner does everything a cheap porro IF should do for me, and does it well.  The view is respectable compared to the EII.  Certainly not as accomplished but much nicer than the 10X late 80s Bushnell Japanese Natureview which works fine too. The Nav Pro's competition was the Raptor 6.5X32.  Remember the mission for these field glasses was a truck binocular.  It  can get cold here.  Reports of stiff cold focus issues sealed their fate.  Also fit and finish and a steady stream of quality issues from this 6/6.5x class of current porro bins sealed it as well.  How many times have you read make sure you buy from a store with solid return policies or my favourite buy two and keep the one that works.The Steiner is a cheap bin. Here it is $160 bucks more than the Raptor.  Mission capable. It spent -30 night under the Jeep seat and worked flawlessly with no condensation when subjected to the shock of the warm house.  Fit and finish is starting out real nice.  I'm also liking the positives of a decent pair of 7X30 porro IF bins.  Also the yachting and boating forums gave good reviews and they are the target customer.Back to the spirit of the OP.  I've learned a lot from this thread, thanks.  I hate saying this but decent cheap bins with no fault warranty with the expectation of replacement is a very workable strategy.  My classic bin strategy has been changed the most.  Classic porro bins only and with construction that comes apart with screws, no missing parts and special attention to rubber eyecups.  Automatically price in the purchase decision the trip to a reputable shop like Suddarth.  We have to use these folks to keep the service industry viable.  No 20-25 year old stuff from ebay, forum is full of disappointments.  It is amazing when browsing how excellent condition also has no return, next listing please. My current wish list is the Nikon 7X35 E MC only.  I started there but found they are rare enough and collectible enough to make them expensive then add a trip for service with seemingly endless shipping and a 7x E becomes almost as much as an EII.  However a minty 7X35E is a $400 bin once it has been properly treated, max purchase $100.  That would border on a miracle but one can dream.</blockquote>

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