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Message: <blockquote data-quote="etudiant" data-source="post: 1796661" data-attributes="member: 48052">So we are agreed that Wanderer 55 had a sensible idea  and did useful work to start the discussion.  I'd apologize to him for his getting  jostled for his pains, rather than commended, but this is a tough crowd and he has to get used to it.Still leaves his core question unanswered, what are the sources of the numerous lower cost designs that have become available lately? On another thread, RJM had  noted that anyone with a modest bankroll plus a rolodex of Chinese producers could set up a new binocular brand. That suggests there is a pretty established supply chain for optics parts, which we know little of.Logically, these producers will eventually want to control their distribution, so look for a rerun of the computer experience, where Acer graduated from producing  laptops for firms like HP to now the leading brand in that segment.Imo, "who are the Acers of the optics world" is really the question that Wanderer 55 asked. Anyone have some answers?</blockquote>